Sturm's take on T. Smith today....(with video)

[CaptainAmerica]

Originally Posted by TheSport78

I see what you're saying, but if this right tackle has serious POTENTIAL to eventually be your franchise LEFT tackle, then I'm all for it. Free has already shown he could play left and right tackle. When all three of your starting QB's, not to mention your franchise QB, are banged up or injured, and Chris Greisen is on your active roster, you need some youth and athleticism on the OL.

I understand your thoughts and don't necessarily disagree. I just would hate to pass on an impact top 10 pick at another position of need when it's been proven every single year of the draft that OL picked in the mid to low rounds and even UFAs have just as much potential to be Pro Bowl players as high first round picks.

Last year is an example. The Skins might regret the pick of Trent Williams in the next couple of years when they see what they passed over to end up with a guy that's just a decent to good, serviceable offensive tackle.

[Portland Fanatic]

I simply do not see how this guy can be the top OT in the draft...it’s very confusing to me to hear all the top scouts and evaluators claim him to be the best of the class. I simply do not see it; I guess that's why I'm not an NFL scout.

I see all the athletic ability, and potential...however its only potential at this point. I see someone very inconsistent and seems to get beat a lot...he makes me way to nervous.

I'm cemented in my opinion to trade down and get Carimi!

Carimi is hard nosed and has shown to be the most consistent OT in the draft...some may argue Castonzo is, i'd be fine with him...but for me give me Carimi all day every day and don't look back!

[diehard2294]

Originally Posted by TheCount

This is what I've been saying about Smith the entire time, and some called me a hater. Smiths tape has never lived up to the hype, I mean some even started saying he might be a Top 5 pick just a few days ago.

The reality is that his technique is terrible and his athleticism is a bit oversold. Costanzo put up noticeably better agility numbers than Smith did, but neither guy is particularly powerful.

If a RT is what we are after, there is no better prospect for that position than Gabe Carimi.

I could understand taking the risk on Smith if we were looking for a LT, but we've got one of those already.

I like Carimis nasty attitude...but to me he struggles a bit with outside speed rushers

I think all 3 have some flaws but as we know only time will tell

[Gaede]

Originally Posted by Portland Fanatic

I'm cemented in my opinion to trade down and get Carimi!

Carimi is hard nosed and has shown to be the most consistent OT in the draft...some may argue Castonzo is, i'd be fine with him...but for me give me Carimi all day every day and don't look back!

This is my dream scenario; no matter how many times I try to change my opinion on Smith, I still want Carimi and still think he'll be the better pro

[Flinger]

2010 Offense:
Pts - 24.6
Ranking - 7th

Yards - 364
Ranking 7th

2010 Defense:
Pts - 27.2
Ranking - 31st

Yards - 351
Ranking - 23rd


I'm just sayin....
OL?

[TheSport78]

Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica

I understand your thoughts and don't necessarily disagree. I just would hate to pass on an impact top 10 pick at another position of need when it's been proven every single year of the draft that OL picked in the mid to low rounds and even UFAs have just as much potential to be Pro Bowl players as high first round picks.

Last year is an example. The Skins might regret the pick of Trent Williams in the next couple of years when they see what they passed over to end up with a guy that's just a decent to good, serviceable offensive tackle.

Who would the impact pick available to us in your opinion?

[Portland Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Gaede

This is my dream scenario; no matter how many times I try to change my opinion on Smith, I still want Carimi and still think he'll be the better pro

I think he will be the best Pro as well. I get all the talk and potential, but in the first round he is not there for me Carimi is. The fact that we can trade down to 14-17, pick up another 2nd or 3rd and still get Carimi...sign me up and do it.

The one factor Carimi has is a serious attitude! He reminds me of a 100% healty Columbo...I will take that any day.

[realtick]

Hilarious. With most of the comments on this page I thought Sturm had some more video on Tyron Smith.

I clicked on the link thinking Sturm was going to suggest not taking him. What's funny is it's the same ole' YouTube clips folks are bent out of shape about AND Sturm is recommending taking him.

Nothing new.

[reddyuta]

i would rather pick smith than a DE at 9.that's the reason a trade down looks quite appealing.we can have a shot at both smith and costanzo around 14 or 15.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

As opposed to all the tackles in the league that *look* awesome whilst making their blocks? Every snap in the trenches is a battle. Just be thankful hes staying in from of his guy b/c it would be a sight for sore eyes

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by diehard2294

I like Carimis nasty attitude...but to me he struggles a bit with outside speed rushers

I think all 3 have some flaws but as we know only time will tell

Oh he certainly will struggle with some speed rushers, but your RT usually will.

At the risk of becoming a broken record, however, our run blocking was horrid last year. As bad as our pass blocking was, our run blocking was even worse.

There are things you can do to help a RT with pass blocking, but you can't manufacture good run blocking.

[Portland Fanatic]

Originally Posted by diehard2294

I like Carimis nasty attitude...but to me he struggles a bit with outside speed rushers

I think all 3 have some flaws but as we know only time will tell

I've read folks say he struggles with speed rushers too, but I have not really seen it. He seems to maul the slow guys and is quick getting out of stance for speed guys. I have not seen it on a consistent basis. I've seen Smith get beat far more by speed guys than Carimi...for what ever reason Smith is really slow to get back...even though he is so quick and athletic.

[Bowdown27]

Originally Posted by Flinger

2010 Offense:
Pts - 24.6
Ranking - 7th

Yards - 364
Ranking 7th

2010 Defense:
Pts - 27.2
Ranking - 31st

Yards - 351
Ranking - 23rd


I'm just sayin....
OL?

That's exactly how I feel. I understand we wanna have a good running game and protect our qb but the defense needs someone to make an immediate impact

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by Portland Fanatic

I simply do not see how this guy can be the top OT in the draft...it’s very confusing to me to hear all the top scouts and evaluators claim him to be the best of the class. I simply do not see it; I guess that's why I'm not an NFL scout.

You are not alone...

And you know, sometimes the pro scouts do get it wrong. We laymen sometimes aren't as dumb as we look.

But this thread has a lot of one thing that wears me out about the draft. Some people have already dug in a position that the guy is great -- or sucks -- and no how he turns out as a pro, they're going to refuse to change their position.

I don't understand that, but it happens every year.

[Portland Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

You are not alone...

And you know, sometimes the pro scouts do get it wrong. We laymen sometimes aren't as dumb as we look.

But this thread has a lot of one thing that wears me out about the draft. Some people have already dug in a position that the guy is great -- or sucks -- and no how he turns out as a pro, they're going to refuse to change their position.

I don't understand that, but it happens every year.

I think he has the potential to be a good pro (I hope)...but until potential is guaranteed...give me evidence and proof.