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Old 04-27-2011   #31
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Someone on NFLN made a decent argument last night I think it was about this very topic.

How you could justify rating a player higher if was also a dynamic returner. But then went on to say that if taken high enough that a team might be hesitant to play him in that role due to being afraid of him getting hurt. So it is an interesting argument.

I think we seen that used when Newman was taken as an added justification for the pick but then they rarely used him in that role.

But with Dez, taken lower, they threw him right into the mix in that role.

Just interesting.


I'm so sick of that "plus he has return skills" argument for the very reason you gave. If he has a role already on the team, chances are he won't be a return man for long. Too risky.

We were selective about when we used Deion there and it's only a matter of time before Dez is treated the same, like Newman has been too.
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If I were Carolina, i'm taking AJ Green with the 1st pick. Developing QBs will do so much better with weapons around them and Steve Smith wants out of Carolina. Get a QB next year.
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If I were Carolina, i'm taking AJ Green with the 1st pick. Developing QBs will do so much better with weapons around them and Steve Smith wants out of Carolina. Get a QB next year.
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I still say both will be gone by the 2 nd pick

I think Carolina takes - Dareous - why because Riveria was a D lineman and he knows the importance of a dominant D lineman - and lt me ask any one
would you want Newton as the face of your Franchise - I sure would not

pluse the can wait a year for QB

As it stands here are the top 8 prospects at QB for the 2012 draft based on a concensus of Scout.com, NFLDraftScout and Walter Football average rankings.
1. Andrew Luck, Stanford (Projected #1 overall)
2. Matt Barkley, USC (Projected top 5 pick)
3. Landry Jones, Oklahoma (Projected top 5 pick)
4. Nick Foles, Arizona (Projected late 1st/early 2nd round)
5. Terrelle Pryor, Ohio State (Projected early 2nd round)
6. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas (Projected mid 3rd round)
7. Kellen Moore, Boise State (Projected early 4th round)
8. John Brantley, Florida (Projected mid 4th round)

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Sorry but Riveria was a linebacker.
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this is Rosanna Rossana Danna speaking and I don't understand why the broncos want to spit on their draft pick... don't they like the guy...why take him if they don't like him...Its just not a civil thing to do....

whats that...split?!! oh nevermind than.
Ha! I for one, enjoyed your comment.
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Old 04-27-2011   #36
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Ha! I for one, enjoyed your comment.
I thank you kind sir most of my remarks are intended to give smiles...
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And a LB knows how valuable a good DL is.
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If I were Carolina, i'm taking AJ Green with the 1st pick. Developing QBs will do so much better with weapons around them and Steve Smith wants out of Carolina. Get a QB next year.
50 mill guaranteed on a rookie wide receiver is asking for trouble.
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There are plenty of teams that would take Dareus

Buf
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Cle
SF

lol, that's every team after the broncos
He would fall no further than Tennessee. They may really like Dalton, but I'm almost positive they would take Dareus.
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Sorry but Riveria was a linebacker.
well even better he knows the value of a good D line
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If you were Denver and were presented with the following two scenarios, what would you take?

1. Peterson
2. Phil Taylor

1. Dareus
2. Aaron Williams

I could see how Peterson is entering the mix.
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this is Rosanna Rossana Danna speaking and I don't understand why the broncos want to spit on their draft pick... don't they like the guy...why take him if they don't like him...Its just not a civil thing to do....

whats that...split?!! oh nevermind than.
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If you were Denver and were presented with the following two scenarios, what would you take?

1. Peterson
2. Phil Taylor

1. Dareus
2. Aaron Williams

I could see how Peterson is entering the mix.
Me too.

I think the quality of depth at DL trumps the depth at CB in this draft. So, with that being said, you could see Denver taking the best CB available and taking their chances of nabbing a quality DL in the next round.
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Doubt it. If Darius doesn't go first overall and Denver takes PP, then Darius is definitely gone at #5 to Arizona. Gabbert is gone at either #3 or #4.
I think Arizona would strongly consider Gabbert or Von Miller over Dareus, if one or both is available.

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I still say both will be gone by the 2 nd pick

I think Carolina takes - Dareous - why because Riveria was a D lineman and he knows the importance of a dominant D lineman - and lt me ask any one
would you want Newton as the face of your Franchise - I sure would not

pluse the can wait a year for QB

As it stands here are the top 8 prospects at QB for the 2012 draft based on a concensus of Scout.com, NFLDraftScout and Walter Football average rankings.
1. Andrew Luck, Stanford (Projected #1 overall)
2. Matt Barkley, USC (Projected top 5 pick)
3. Landry Jones, Oklahoma (Projected top 5 pick)
4. Nick Foles, Arizona (Projected late 1st/early 2nd round)
5. Terrelle Pryor, Ohio State (Projected early 2nd round)
6. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas (Projected mid 3rd round)
7. Kellen Moore, Boise State (Projected early 4th round)
8. John Brantley, Florida (Projected mid 4th round)

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Landry Jones. A top 5 pick
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