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Old 07-08-2011   #1
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Default Texas Executes Leal Despite Objections
Texas yesterday executed Mexican national Humberto Leal for raping and murdering a teenager despite complaints.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/07/08/...se-objections/

Thank God their is still justice in some states.
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Humberto Leal Abducted 16-year old Adria Saveda from a party in San Antonio.
Saveda was raped with a piece of lumber and her head was crushed by a 35-pound piece of asphalt. Her nude body was found near a creek with the piece of lumber still protruding from her.

Yes I would say the man got what he deserved. If others want to feel sorry for him fine by me but this scum will never hurt another young girl or destroy another family.
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Humberto Leal Abducted 16-year old Adria Saveda from a party in San Antonio.
Saveda was raped with a piece of lumber and her head was crushed by a 35-pound piece of asphalt. Her nude body was found near a creek with the piece of lumber still protruding from her.

Yes I would say the man got what he deserved. If others want to feel sorry for him fine by me but this scum will never hurt another young girl or destroy another family.
No he didn't. He didn't get a 10th of what he deserved.
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No he didn't. He didn't get a 10th of what he deserved.
I will not argue that I will say the man will no longer be a threat to anyone.
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Humberto Leal Abducted 16-year old Adria Saveda from a party in San Antonio.
Saveda was raped with a piece of lumber and her head was crushed by a 35-pound piece of asphalt. Her nude body was found near a creek with the piece of lumber still protruding from her.

Yes I would say the man got what he deserved. If others want to feel sorry for him fine by me but this scum will never hurt another young girl or destroy another family.
Are there people who feel sorry for him? Was that ever an issue?
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No he didn't. He didn't get a 10th of what he deserved.
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I will not argue that I will say the man will no longer be a threat to anyone.
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Are there people who feel sorry for him? Was that ever an issue?
Believe me there will be many who will complain because this man was executed and how unjust we are.
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Are there people who feel sorry for him? Was that ever an issue?
Yes there are idiots who want to protect this monster.

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Mr. Leal had no prior criminal record, was the victim of childhood sexual abuse and suffered from disabilities as a result of brain damage. In short, he has lived a difficult life
http://www.care2.com/causes/humberto-leal.html
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His death will represent a grave miscarriage of justice
I'm guessing you don't agree Zrin?

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I'm guessing you don't agree Zrin?
I think that is obvious.
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I don't care that the guy is dead now..actually I do care and think it is a good thing so that is one less rapist out there.

What I do care about is the reason "some" were objecting or wanting it delayed.

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The Supreme Court yesterday denied Leal’s objection to the execution on the grounds that Texas law enforcement officials failed to advise him of his rights, under the 1963 Vienna Convention, to get assistance from his home country’s consulate or embassy.

Here’s a report from WSJ, which notes that Texas and other states routinely have failed to advise foreigners of their consular rights as required under the Vienna treaty.
Basically the state law enforcement did not follow law.

Some may say so what...he deserved to die.
And before some person starts acting like this is defending his actions (as often happens when someone has a different take on this board), I is not a good thing to first not adhere to this law and then deny it later.

The reason being is pretty obvious for those that want to dig into it and want to consider the treaty/law in effect for US citizens in other countries that get arrested. Hard to rail on those countries breaking that law, when we do it ourselves.

And being that it is a treaty that we signed...

US Constitution
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This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
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Basically the state law enforcement did not follow law.
I would like to see the evidence of that.
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I don't care that the guy is dead now..actually I do care and think it is a good thing so that is one less rapist out there.

What I do care about is the reason "some" were objecting or wanting it delayed.



Basically the state law enforcement did not follow law.

Some may say so what...he deserved to die.
And before some person starts acting like this is defending his actions (as often happens when someone has a different take on this board), I is not a good thing to first not adhere to this law and then deny it later.

The reason being is pretty obvious for those that want to dig into it and want to consider the treaty/law in effect for US citizens in other countries that get arrested. Hard to rail on those countries breaking that law, when we do it ourselves.

And being that it is a treaty that we signed...

US Constitution
Article VI
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I would like to see the evidence of that.
As soon as you show me evidence that they did.

I am just going by the article and explaining why there were "some" objections.
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