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09-04-2011
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ESPND: Montrae Holland cut, Derrick Dockery signed
Sep 4
12:16
PM CT
By Todd Archer
IRVING, Texas -- The Cowboys continue to shake up their offensive line releasing one veteran and adding another on Sunday.
The Cowboys cut Montrae Holland and agent Todd France said the team has a one-year deal with his client, Derrick Dockery, a Garland native.
Read the rest: http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowbo...dockery-signed
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09-04-2011
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Bout time. They need to look at Brookings if he doesn't heal well. I like Bennett but he needs to do better. Sorry I'm rambling
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09-04-2011
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I,personally, like Nagy but was hoping that Jerrah would allow him and Arkin to develop their strength this season by signing an estalished OG (if Montrae didn't work out for us). That would give the Boys two big 6'6" OGs in Kosier and Dockery with only a rookie at Center and RT. I saw Nagy get shoved around pretty good against the Dolphins 2ND AND 3RD string D-Linemen and we all know the 'speed of the game' picks up even more when the regular season starts. I really do EXPECT the JETS nasty and big starting D-Line to expose our young rookies in the 1st game and forced Jerrah to relook his 'decision' to keep mostly 'undeveloped' O-Linemen this year. I'm actually 'praying' that it works out but that would be like sipping cheap Koolaid instead of expensive Brandy.
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09-04-2011
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I don't really understand this move. Granted I don't know a whole lot about Dockery, but we're replacing one vet backup guard with another. Is Dockery that much better than Holland?
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09-04-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Future
I don't really understand this move. Granted I don't know a whole lot about Dockery, but we're replacing one vet backup guard with another. Is Dockery that much better than Holland?
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It may be an attitude thing. I don't get the impression that showing up X pounds overweight was a good way to get on Garrett's good side.
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09-04-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Future
I don't really understand this move. Granted I don't know a whole lot about Dockery, but we're replacing one vet backup guard with another. Is Dockery that much better than Holland?
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Doesn't have to be much better. A little bit better is enough to make a move like this. Or a little bit cheaper. Or a little bit better attitude.
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09-04-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Illini88228
It may be an attitude thing. I don't get the impression that showing up X pounds overweight was a good way to get on Garrett's good side.
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I definitely think attitude is part of it.
And I'm guessing that he may be a bit cheaper as well.
I think Dockery is a bit better than Holland at this stage in his career too (though perhaps only marginally).
Clearly, the message has been sent by Garrett - if the players didn't already know - you better show up in shape.
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09-04-2011
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The Great Communicator
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I don't know exactly what they saw to make this change but I'm glad see Holland gone. I thought he would do something for us when e came here but every time he got in a game he went out hurt after two plays.
I think it is funny that three years ago ahlf of the people on this bord wanted to replace Kosier saying he was our weak link. And now he is the only member of that line the is still here. Moreover the guys that they brought in to replace the other 4 guys are all more in the mold of Kosier than any of the other guys.
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09-04-2011
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Cowboys baby!
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If he's healthy Derrick Dockery is a huge upgrade over Holland. At worst, he's solid depth.
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09-04-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Illini88228
It may be an attitude thing. I don't get the impression that showing up X pounds overweight was a good way to get on Garrett's good side.
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It could be a health and physical conditioning thing too...a veteran presence doesn't help you unless he's capable of competing and getting on the field when needed.
I hate that we are actually improved by players the Skins don't want, but I'll get over it.
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09-04-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck 54
It could be a health and physical conditioning thing too...a veteran presence doesn't help you unless he's capable of competing and getting on the field when needed.
I hate that we are actually improved by players the Skins don't want, but I'll get over it.
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I think one of the reasons the Skins moved on without Dockery because he was costing them around $3mm - and that he didn't fit Shanny's OL scheme.
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09-04-2011
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We got a hat. I want a ring.
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I think is probably another clear sign about how Garrett feels about attitude and hard work and they moved to a guy that Garrett likely felt would be a much better fit in both ways.
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09-04-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BraveHeartFan
I think is probably another clear sign about how Garrett feels about attitude and hard work and they moved to a guy that Garrett likely felt would be a much better fit in both ways.
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i just hope it pays off in the end.
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09-04-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by natesboys051
I,personally, like Nagy but was hoping that Jerrah would allow him and Arkin to develop their strength this season by signing an estalished OG (if Montrae didn't work out for us). That would give the Boys two big 6'6" OGs in Kosier and Dockery with only a rookie at Center and RT. I saw Nagy get shoved around pretty good against the Dolphins 2ND AND 3RD string D-Linemen and we all know the 'speed of the game' picks up even more when the regular season starts. I really do EXPECT the JETS nasty and big starting D-Line to expose our young rookies in the 1st game and forced Jerrah to relook his 'decision' to keep mostly 'undeveloped' O-Linemen this year. I'm actually 'praying' that it works out but that would be like sipping cheap Koolaid instead of expensive Brandy.
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I'm concerned about the rookies' conditioning in the second half of the season. You always hear that rookies need a year in an NFL training program. I don't want to see our rookies fade at the end of the season.
"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like
Norman Einstein." --Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback & sports analyst.
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09-04-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Future
I don't really understand this move. Granted I don't know a whole lot about Dockery, but we're replacing one vet backup guard with another. Is Dockery that much better than Holland?
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He is, but that's not even the main reason for the move.
The first reason is that Holland is fat and out of shape and has been this way for 3 seasons now.
He doesn't fit the mould of our new OL which is leaner and more agile.
Lastly, Holland can't play a whole game without getting hurt anymore so he isn't a reliable backup. If we're gonna carry a vet into the game to backup at OG, it can't be Holland because we can't rely on him to finish the game.
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