Trusting the scouting department to..... - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Kevlee06 · 03-16-2005

find players who can rush the passer. Thats what the Cowboys need to do. I know the draft is a crapshoot when predicting who is gonna fall to you. But instead of trading picks/players and signing more guys to HUGE deals the Boys need to take a step back and identify players who they KNOW will fill that pass rushing need.
Treating the offseason like the Deadskins is not the awnser. The Cowboys have already done well in free agency, I say focus now on cheap FA signings and the draft.

Hoov · 03-16-2005

I agree, with the draft picks we have and BP making decisions we should have no problem finding a player who can bring the pressure. I wouldn't mind the cowboys adding a D-lineman who can be had cheap and who will sign for 1 or 2 years for added depth though.

**WoodysGirl** · 03-16-2005

You know you're asking alot, right?

Trust the scouting department to actually find a pass rusher when they haven't found one before? Hmmm, I don't know Kev. I'll think about it.

Kevlee06 · 03-16-2005

I just have a funny feeling we're being set up for a 3/4 year run instead of being in good financial shape for twice that amount.

At some point you HAVE to get better from within. And their have been some positive steps recently. But all this money being thrown around now could make it difficult to sign the guys that are being drafted in a few years.

Kevlee06 · 03-16-2005

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You know you're asking alot, right?

Trust the scouting department to actually find a pass rusher when they haven't found one before? Hmmm, I don't know Kev. I'll think about it.

Well Lacewells gone, soooooo

**WoodysGirl** · 03-16-2005

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Well Lacewells gone, soooooo

yeah I forgot about that.

As for your other post. Like someone mentioned to me yesterday, when the new CBA is extended, the salary cap is going up. So all these "expensive" free agents really won't be that big of a hit since should be in the 100 mil range. I've actually seen 115 mil farther down the road.

As for re-signing some of our draft picks later, like T-new and Roy and Witten. I think these FAs contracts run out right around the time it'll be time for them to re-up. And since they're not backloaded, I think we'll be fine.

jksmith269 · 03-16-2005

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yeah I forgot about that.

As for your other post. Like someone mentioned to me yesterday, when the new CBA is extended, the salary cap is going up. So all these "expensive" free agents really won't be that big of a hit since should be in the 100 mil range. I've actually seen 115 mil farther down the road.

As for re-signing some of our draft picks later, like T-new and Roy and Witten. I think these FAs contracts run out right around the time it'll be time for them to re-up. And since they're not backloaded, I think we'll be fine.

I think its funny just 10yrs ago the cap started out around 34mil and here we are talking about caps of 115mil.....If you ask me the players 10yrs ago were better and they played for less money....Something is wrong with this picture......

Hoov · 03-16-2005

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You know you're asking alot, right?

Trust the scouting department to actually find a pass rusher when they haven't found one before? Hmmm, I don't know Kev. I'll think about it.

Drafting has been better since BP arrived.

Mike 1967 · 03-16-2005

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I think its funny just 10yrs ago the cap started out around 34mil and here we are talking about caps of 115mil.....If you ask me the players 10yrs ago were better and they played for less money....Something is wrong with this picture......

Yep and it is just getting worse IMO.

How do you motivate a guy to go out and bust his hump after cutting him a 20 million dollar check ?

And it will probably be a 50 million dollar check in the very near future.

Where will it end ?

Mike 1967 · 03-16-2005

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Drafting has been better since BP arrived.

I agree.

In regards to drafting DE's.....I think you can throw all the past historical data out. Parcells is in the mix now and Lacewell is gone.

Parcells has yet to draft a Defensive Lineman....I'm very interested to see how he does.

Hoov · 03-16-2005

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Yep and it is just getting worse IMO.

How do you motivate a guy to go out and bust his hump after cutting him a 20 million dollar check ?

And it will probably be a 50 million dollar check in the very near future.

Where will it end ?

Added to this that guys who play great and are paid less than other guys at the same position go seeking a big payday when they become FA, some of them thinking the big money with the new team is pay for what they have already done in the NFL, and compensation for being "underpaid" all those previous years. to me that is scary.....sign a player to big money that he feels he has already earned based on past performance, meanwhile he hasn't done SQUAT for your team!!!!

Hoov · 03-16-2005

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I agree.

In regards to drafting DE's.....I think you can throw all the past historical data out. Parcells is in the mix now and Lacewell is gone.

Parcells has yet to draft a Defensive Lineman....I'm very interested to see how he does.

Me too. Didn't he draft Ferguson in 6th or 7th round. Now he has #11 and #20 to work with.

**WoodysGirl** · 03-16-2005

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Drafting has been better since BP arrived.

I know. I was j/k. Bringing a little humor to the board.

Mike 1967 = It won't end because as long as the owners make in the billions off these athletes blood, sweat, and tears. I'm all for athletes getting the most money they can. They have a short life-span in this league and then they have to move to the real world. On this board we talk about guys like Howard at 28 being old. When in reality, he's just getting started in his life. Say his career ends at the end of that 6-year contract he wants. He's 34-35. God say the same, he's got 40-50 more years to go. Why not set himself and his family up to be in a good position to prosper in his next life?

The downside is that some guys do slack after cashing the big check, but then that's why NFL contracts are not guaranteed. They can cut 'em and move on. Like the Jags did when they signed Hugh Douglas and then cut him after a year. Not to say he wasn't motivated, but he wasn't producing. While it's fun and entertainment for us, it's also a business.

Mike 1967 · 03-16-2005

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Mike 1967 = It won't end because as long as the owners make in the billions off these athletes blood, sweat, and tears. I'm all for athletes getting the most money they can. They have a short life-span in this league and then they have to move to the real world. On this board we talk about guys like Howard at 28 being old. When in reality, he's just getting started in his life. Say his career ends at the end of that 6-year contract he wants. He's 34-35. God say the same, he's got 40-50 more years to go. Why not set himself and his family up to be in a good position to prosper in his next life?

Eventually the whole thing is going to cave in on itself.

IMO there will come a point when arena league football becomes more entertaining than the NFL.

In the arena league you will at least have guys fighting and scratching to make it big...or simply because they love the sport.

In the NFL you will have billionaires....the majority of which are more driven by desire for Bling Bling than for the sport. So once they get the Bling Bling where is the motivation to compete at a high level.

Doomsday101 · 03-16-2005

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Eventually the whole thing is going to cave in on itself.

IMO there will come a point when arena league football becomes more entertaining than the NFL.

In the arena league you will at least have guys fighting and scratching to make it big...or simply because they love the sport.

In the NFL you will have billionaires....the majority of which are more driven by desire for Bling Bling than for the sport. So once they get the Bling Bling where is the motivation to compete at a high level.

The motivation is many of these guys are highly competitive which is how they were able to make in the NFL. I think most realize for the fame they seek it takes performance on the field to be in the lime light. I'm not saying that all players are this way but I think a vast majority do understand that there are 2 sides to sports 1 is the business side and the other is the game itself. I have tried to watch area league football and it is a joke