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Old 03-18-2005   #1
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Default 265 lbs, 3.94 Short Shuttle, WOW!!!!

Only 20 players ran under a 4.0 in the short shuttle at the combine.


Only one of those 20 was a defensive lineman. His name? David Pollack.


And while we're here...

Only 35 players ran faster then a 7.0 on the 3-cone drill at the combine.

Only one of them was a defensive lineman. His name? David Pollack.


DeMarcus Ware is the only other non-QB/S/WR/CB/RB that also ran under a 7.0 in the 3-cone drill, but he'll be a LB in the NFL.

Not even Derrick Johnson ran a faster time on the 3-cone drill.



Gee, I wonder what's more useful in "measuring" a football player's skills, the vertical jump or the short shuttle and 3-cone drill? Hmmm...


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Didn't DJ have the fastest time in the short shuttle?
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Only 20 players ran under a 4.0 in the short shuttle at the combine.



Only 35 players ran faster then a 7.0 on the 3-cone drill at the combine.


How many jumped 40 inch verticle or better? Not anywhere close to 20 or 35 players.



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How many jumped 40 inch verticle or better? Not anywhere close to 20 or 35 players.

And how does a vertical jump translate to how a player will perform on the field? Can you answer that question?


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Didn't DJ have the fastest time in the short shuttle?

4th fastest.

2 players ran a 3.84

1 players ran a 3.89

2 players ran a 3.92

and 5 players (including DJ) ran a 3.93.

Very impressive for any player, especially a LB (or DE for that matter).
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And how does a vertical jump translate to how a player will perform on the field? Can you answer that question?





Never said it translated to on the field greatness, just said it was showing great athletism for a 274lb man to jump 40 vert.

Dam Boy, Pollack runs a 4.80....get real. That is serious BUST potential.

Furthermore his potential upside is far lower than that of a Merriman, James, Johnson or Spears.
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Dam Boy, Pollack runs a 4.80....get real. That is serious BUST potential.

What does 40 times have to do with a DE?

By the way, he ran a 4.75 electronic timed. Merriman ran a 4.66 hand timed. Hand times are usually .1 faster then electronic times.

Translation: Pollack ran just as fast as Merriman.


Also, Terrell Suggs ran a 4.8. So did Charles Haley. So did Simeon Rice.

Shall I go on?

LMAO!
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265lbs gets blown off the line Pollack would have to play OLB too and he's too slow, I would be very disappointed at #11 if Dallas ended up picking a low potential athlete when there are so many potential playmaking NFL game changers in the top 10 or so picks. Pollack isn't one of them.


Braylon Edwards
Mike Williams
Derrick Johnson
Shawne Merriman
Erasmus James
Marcus Spears
Antrel Rolle
Troy Williamson
Alex Barron


ALL BEFORE DAVE POLLACK


......and more
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265lbs gets blown off the line Pollack would have to play OLB too and he's too slow,

Again, he's just as fast as Merriman. Find another reason to "hate" on Pollack. lol


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I would be very disappointed at #11 if Dallas ended up picking a low potential athlete

So you want the cowboys to draft "athletes"? I prefer we draft FOOTBALL PLAYERS.




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Pollack isn't one of them.

Still waiting for you to explain to me why you feel that way. What makes Merriman the better player. Please, I'm all ears. lol



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Braylon Edwards
Mike Williams
Derrick Johnson
Shawne Merriman
Erasmus James
Marcus Spears
Antrel Rolle
Troy Williamson
Alex Barron


ALL BEFORE DAVE POLLACK

I hope so. Plus one more, that way Pollack will be available to us at #11.
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What does 40 times have to do with a DE?

By the way, he ran a 4.75 electronic timed. Merriman ran a 4.66 hand timed. Hand times are usually .1 faster then electronic times.

Translation: Pollack ran just as fast as Merriman.


Also, Terrell Suggs ran a 4.8. So did Charles Haley. So did Simeon Rice.

Shall I go on?

LMAO!

Rack did any of these players you listed have 30" arms like Polluck? I'm sorry but I think he will be man handled at the NFL level and don't see him being more than a good ST player.... I like his heart and smarts but he reminds me a lot of Bill bates a good motor and head...I know he's bigger than Billy was but hopefully you see the point...IMO he will be a waste of a draft pick so we will probably wind up with him.....
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I hope so. Plus one more, that way Pollack will be available to us at #11.

Alex Smith
Aaron Rogers
Cedric Benson
Ronnie Brown

All top 10 picks
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Rack did any of these players you listed have 30" arms like Polluck?

! Are you serious? Now you guys are just searching for all kinds of reasons to "hate" on Pollack. lol
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! Are you serious? Now you guys are just searching for all kinds of reasons to "hate" on Pollack. lol

Pollack will not be drafted until the early 20's.
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Pollack will not be drafted until the early 20's.

We'll see.
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We'll see.

I'd take a flier on him at 20.
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! Are you serious? Now you guys are just searching for all kinds of reasons to "hate" on Pollack. lol
I'm not seaching for anything I've said it all along......
So your saying he didn't have the shortest arms for DL at the combine this year????? his arms were 30.5 that is why his stock took a hard fall that and he wasn't as fast as hyped.......coachs and scouts when asked about pollack say he has a good motor but are worried that he will be bullied by the larger Tackles in the NFL......why are you so in love with him he is a decent college player but so was danny worful (sp) the RB from neberska a few years ago ryan leaf a lot of them are good at the college level but don't make it on the NFL level he will have a good career but it will be more a back up role and ST's but thats my opinion.....
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