This quote about Jeff Ireland surprised me

[Randy White]

This quote surprised me because there was alot of support for Jeff when he was with the Cowboys.

“Jeff Ireland being in charge of a team is a tragedy,” Crowder said, off the air. “He’s in over his head. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. What did he do at Dallas to justify him being a GM? He knew Bill Parcells longer than the other scouts did.”

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/2...#ixzz1c3MfIRlz


I wonder how much truth there is in that statement ? I mean, he's done a near horrendous job down here with the Dullphins, unlike his tenure in Dallas, so did the Cowboys scouts " covered up " alot of his possible mistakes ?

[CCBoy]

Originally Posted by Randy White

This quote surprised me because there was alot of support for Jeff when he was with the Cowboys.





Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/2...#ixzz1c3MfIRlz


I wonder how much truth there is in that statement ? I mean, he's done a near horrendous job down here with the Dullphins, unlike his tenure in Dallas, so did the Cowboys scouts " covered up " alot of his possible mistakes ?

Or maybe, just maybe, the Jerry Jones support line and team aren't as bad as many fans projected over the past ten years as well. He actually circles wagons when enemy approaches, and does so with haste and direction.

[Randy White]

Originally Posted by CCBoy

Or maybe, just maybe, the Jerry Jones support line and team aren't as bad as many fans projected over the past ten years as well. He actually circles wagons when enemy approaches, and does so with haste and direction.

Oh, come on now.. stop being such a homer and posting such common sense stuff.. You're ruining alot of people's agendas.

[dogunwo]

You never know what kind of support system he has there. He might be restricted to what kind of moves he can make, like a puppet GM. Wasn't it discovered that the, real mastermind here was Tom Ciskowski anyway?

[Hoofbite]

I dunno why Crowder would criticize Jeff.

I guess because he hired Sparano?

Or maybe because the team cut Crowder and he's out of a job?

Just saw something where Sparano sold his house just recently.

[Mash]

Big Bill wasnt help either down there IMHO

Took another owners money for retirement.

Sorry ........just not a fan of Bill

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by Mash

Big Bill wasnt help either down there IMHO

Took another owners money for retirement.

Sorry ........just not a fan of Bill

well of course his successes mean nothing.

He got the Dolphins back to the playoffs; in the greatest one year turn around in NFL history. Now clearly some mistakes were made; and not having a good QB really makes a huge difference. Had the fins had a Decent QB, say a BLedsoe that was with BUffalo, and the one we had early here, there record would not be nearly as bad. ANd they had some bad luck with injuries as well.

Now it does seem clear that Ireland was not as good as thought; but TC has blown a few here as well.

[JPM]

Originally Posted by CCBoy

Or maybe, just maybe, the Jerry Jones support line and team aren't as bad as many fans projected over the past ten years as well. He actually circles wagons when enemy approaches, and does so with haste and direction.

That's crazy talk CC !!!

[birdwells1]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

well of course his successes mean nothing.

He got the Dolphins back to the playoffs; in the greatest one year turn around in NFL history. Now clearly some mistakes were made; and not having a good QB really makes a huge difference. Had the fins had a Decent QB, say a BLedsoe that was with BUffalo, and the one we had early here, there record would not be nearly as bad. ANd they had some bad luck with injuries as well.

Now it does seem clear that Ireland was not as good as thought; but TC has blown a few here as well.

Bill was great at getting the most out of mediocre players, he would take average players and coach them up into a wildcard team. His change in philosophy when he's first hired gives the team a new energy and so the team responds likewise.

In Dallas with Q Carter and in Miami the first year were his best year on those teams, after that the teams went down hill.

[Manwiththeplan]

he didn't make the final say here, where I guess in Miami he does. I don't think he's done a horrendous job. Miami is 0-6, not because they have no talent, it because they have no QB and the coach has no authority after the owner tried to replace him with Harbaugh.

He's done great with drafting defensive players except Vontae Davis. Really well with the D-Line. Trading for Brandon Marshall was a mistake, but it was a mistake several other teams would've done, especially for 2 #2s.

If they were to somehow get Andrew Luck and maybe another WR, I could see them going 8-8 or so the next year and ofcourse everyone would say how great Luck is, when actuality the team isn't devoid of talent like their record indicates

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by CCBoy

Or maybe, just maybe, the Jerry Jones support line and team aren't as bad as many fans projected over the past ten years as well.

Bingo.

Also, Ireland needs time to build. Miami was a mess.

[gmoney112]

He always reminded me of a smug dbag.

[Yakuza Rich]

Ireland seemed to curry favor with Parcells when he was right about Jacob Rogers and spoke up about it. Still, Ireland was big on Stanback and it goes to show that he wasn't above having 'pet cats.'

I agree, Ireland needs more time to rebuild. They were far worse than they are now when they took over. They just kinda got some things to work for them the 1st year and then everybody had these expectations despite being just removed from a 1-15 season.







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[JIGGYFLY]

Miami has missed on just about every 2nd and 3rd round pick since Ireland has been there.

There is less than 50% of the players drafted since he got there still on the roster.

He has been terrible as a GM this a quick turnaround league and the team has gotten progressively worst not better, so why would you give him more time to build?

[AsthmaField]

Trading the 12th pick for the 28th and 40th picks in the 2010 Draft (Jared Odrick and Koa Misi). “Jared could play for 32 teams, but you already had six defensive linemen,” Crowder said. “You could have had Dez Bryant."

Nice to know that other team's players are understanding how good Dez is.