NFL Committee Makes 19 New Rules Proposals

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

I guess i am of the rare few that thinks Roy's technique is to hurt players. Calico's injury was so avoidable, Roy could have easily pushed him out of bounce. Not to offend anyone, but some of you guys live in LaLa land.

Personally i liked some of these new rules, but don't change the pass interference rule. And something needs to be done about coaches seeing the replays fast enough to see if they want to challenge.

You're certainly entitled to feel that way but you are wrong. Period. That is not true but I'm basing that on heresay. But the sources are reliable.

Plus look at the film.

Not flaming you just stating my opinion.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

Stingley has hit helmet to helmet...NFL has cracked down on that and passed new rules.

Marc Buoniconti was hit by an illegal spear. He was had an unknown prior spinal problem and faulty equipment was the cause.

None of these have to do with my comment about face mask penalties.

I have seen players twist knees and ankles from getting facemasked.

You lumped them together, remember?

The horse collar in rare occassions may cause an injury, anything involving the head and neck risks perminate injury or death. They are NOT the same thing.

[Everlastingxxx]

Originally Posted by jobberone

You're certainly entitled to feel that way but you are wrong. Period. That is not true but I'm basing that on heresay. But the sources are reliable.

Plus look at the film.

What are the sources? I would like to see the clips of those injuries again. Oh, and i am never wrong!

[Everlastingxxx]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

The horse collar in rare occassions may cause an injury, anything involving the head and neck risks perminate injury or death. They are NOT the same thing.

The horse collar tackle is more likely to cause a season ending injury before a facemask or head to head injury. The guys Roy ended their season, was it from his head to head shots or the collar tackle? If i am correct, Bo Jackson's career ended prematurely from a collar tackle.

[Banned_n_austin]

Originally Posted by trickblue

I think Roy has more in mind to "shake them up"... not to seriously injure them...

That's the name of the game. Having said that, I don't think this is really a big deal for us. Just the fact that it's being raised gives us a fear advantage. No one wants to go down like that. The Broncos have a fear advantage on thier side. They're being "watched", but in the end the advantage goes to the Broncos for their style of leg blocks. Fear can dominate your opponent.

[Banned_n_austin]

Originally Posted by Jarv

Great points. This rule will not pass because its too hard to tell or call the way its worded there. You can grab the collar, but not fall on their legs ? I don't recall Roy falling on TO's legs...Once you make a grab of a player and both of your momemtums are going forward, how can you tell were you will land...What if you grab him by the collar and he falls on the defenders legs, does the Ofeensive guy get a penalty ?

Will the call be reveiwable ? Is the facemask call reveiwable ?

Also, someone in another thread post a animated gif of the Musa tackle...As he stated, Roy had to make a grab of the collar because of the stiffarm to his facemask.

This could end up being a ploy, even if the rule is not voted in, you know the refs will be out looking for Roy in SOME way, just because the whole topic was brought up.

It's been a while since I've read a post authored by "Jarv" I think. . .

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

The horse collar tackle is more likely to cause a season ending injury before a facemask or head to head injury. The guys Roy ended their season, was it from his head to head shots or the collar tackle? If i am correct, Bo Jackson's career ended prematurely from a collar tackle.

Bo was hit in low as he was being pulled down.

Smith rolled up under Williams.

Owens got his foot caught in the turf.

Calico feet slipped on the sideline paint.

How they were being tackled had very little to do with their injuries.

MANY MORE PLAYERS HAVE THEIR SEASONS END FROM CUT BLOCKS BETWEEN THE TACKLES AND HAD OWENS NOT BEEN THE ONE HURT WE WOULD NOT BE HEARING SQUAT ABOUT THIS CHANGE.

[Banned_n_austin]

Originally Posted by Catch-22

How else is Roy Williams supposed to tackle TO on that play? Is he supposed to let him score?

This rule won't pass IMO. But I agree on that tackle. TO has a speed advantage. Roy used basic angles on that play. It really is just part of the game. Someone may not like that because they got the rough end of the stick, but the tackle wasn't illegal.

It's just that. . .poor TO was hurt on the play...the prima donna...that can't happen or he'll just have to do his best Dennis Rodman impression and bust out his wedding dress, cuz he looked like Roy's - - - - - on that play.

[Avery]

Here's the Musa Smith injury:



I guess from now on, Roy should let himself be stiffarmed in the face and let go of the runner. He held onto him and did not purposely fall on his legs. He was in mid-air for crying out loud!

Hate to say it, but we're seeing the pussification of the league. Football is a rough sport and injuries happen.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Avery

Here's the Musa Smith injury:



I guess from now on, Roy should let himself be stiffarmed in the face and let go of the runner. He held onto him and did not purposely fall on his legs. He was in mid-air for crying out loud!

Hate to say it, but we're seeing the pussification of the league. Football is a rough sport and injuries happen.

Looking at that video I see no other option Roy had, he either makes the tackle as he did or he lets the ball carrier take it to the house. I also do not think Roy intent was to hurt the runner his intent was to bring him down and that is what he is paid to do.

[Vertigo_17]

Thanks for the visual Avery.

[RESIN8]

I get it now, Jeff Fischer is still bent on losing Tyrone Calico for the season last year casue Roy took him out, while those jerks were laughing(remember that?) on the sideline about Roy getting stiff armed by Chris Brown they didn't understand what would happen afterwords that Roy always gets redemption. I say HAHA tough it. Jeff you're only gonna be in this league for another year casue you got an owner who has no respect for you and told the media that Tennessee was losing games cause they were being out coached. How is that for being singled out?

also there is a certain risk reward thing you get from playing football. I mean in the end you are playing a game for the reward of Millions of dollars, free stuff and fame. The Risk is that injuries do occur and serious injuries can be the result. I mean a telephone guy climbs a tower so that he can put a roof over his head and feed his family he may get more money caue there is a certain amount of risk involved. The risk is that he could fall and get injured or even die.

I fyou don't like the risk involved than get out so somebody else with enough guts can come into the game and play it.

[Everlastingxxx]

Avery good job. Although Roy got stiff armed because Roy likes to tackle HIGH. To say his only option was to grab the collar is insane. Roy is a big boy, he doesn't come off the ground by accident.

Show the Calico injury if possible.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

Avery good job. Although Roy got stiff armed because Roy likes to tackle HIGH. To say his only option was to grab the collar is insane. Roy is a big boy, he doesn't come off the ground by accident.

Show the Calico injury if possible.

BS Roy made the tackle the only way he could and the ball carrier is no little kid out there he is a well conditioned athlete. If the runner does not stiff arm Roy takes him down without grabing the collar but when you have a guy pushing your head backwards then your going to grab whatever you can to get the runner down.

[Banned_n_austin]

Originally Posted by RESIN8

I say HAHA tough it. Jeff you're only gonna be in this league for another year casue you got an owner who has no respect for you and told the media that Tennessee was losing games cause they were being out coached. How is that for being singled out?

Preach it brotha'.