Andy Reid on SNR Radio - Dallas Cowboys Forum

AmishCowboy · 03-23-2005

I just heard Andy Reid on Sporting News Radio say he would be in favor of making the Horse Collar tackle a 15 yard penalty. said there must be a better way and that he "has to deal with it twice a year". What a shot across Roy's Bow!. Sounded to me like Andy is doing a little whining about the T.O. injury last year!. What a Crybaby!. I think the Cowboys lead the NFL is having rules made up just for them! :iggles: :jints:

DWAREZ · 03-23-2005

yep..what a wuss ...I hope ROY DESTROYS

TO again this time from the front!!

EGG · 03-23-2005

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Originally Posted by ROYDESTROY

yep..what a wuss ...I hope ROY DESTROYS

TO again this time from the front!!

LMFAO ROYDESTROY, that is the funniest avatar I've seen in a long time~!

**trickblue** · 03-23-2005

funny how those coaches directly affected by it want it banned... it is a high-risk tackling technique for sure... but certainly not dirty... or illegal...

Perhaps Mr. Reid should address some of his own safeties' techniques in tacking...

NicholasD · 03-23-2005

He has a problem with horse collar tackles but has zero issues with Dawkins freaking suplexing people?

Shaun · 03-23-2005

The turf at the Vet used to injure more people than any players could have. Between that and Dawkins, why would he start to care now?

purgatoryruss · 03-23-2005

Maybe coach Reid should thanks Roy. Otherwise we would of had to of seen every sports channel show us his fat a** wearing tights. after TO scored on some other team.

ghst187 · 03-23-2005

everyone acts like Roy is the only person who has ever grabbed a collar to make a tackle.
Reid doesn't seem to object to horsecollaring a thousand krispy cremes....which IMO should definitely be a penalty for decency

Natedawg44 · 03-23-2005

I hope Roy makes it his signature tackle after this and we lead the league in horse collar tackling. If I was Parcells I would tell Roy to tackle however the heck he wants let me worry about any penalties afterwards.

Juke99 · 03-23-2005

I realize it's not popular to say this around here but that tackling technique, which is a Roy trademark, has made me very uncomfortable. It's not a desperation tackle where the only thing he's got left to bring the guy down with is his jersey. In fact, Roy positions himself to make that tackle.

I LOVE to watch Roy pulverize opponents. Fav all time hit was the one he layed on Toomer..and that was thiiiiis close to being penalized.

So, I'm not a fan of flag football rules. In fact, I used to love to watch Jack Tatum, Butkus, Atwater...our own Cliff Harris, Too Tall, etc...

But this tackle, in my estimation, is done with the intent to cause harm in a different way than a massive hit.

There's nothing wrong with a player having the intent to cause harm to an opponent, so that's not my gripe. When people get into discussions saying it's not Roy's intent to hurt an opponent with the tackle, I find it kinda pointless. There are several players who tackle with the intent to hurt an opponent. That's a huge part and an acceptable part, of the game. No one is going to convince me that a direct hit, with full force, isn't meant to hurt an opponent. And that's fine with me.

But there's just something about that horse collar tackling technique that bugs me and feels similar to going after a guy's knees. It just feels kinda "bush league" to me.

**MichaelWinicki** · 03-23-2005

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Originally Posted by Juke99

I realize it's not popular to say this around here but that tackling technique, which is a Roy trademark, has made me very uncomfortable. It's not a desperation tackle where the only thing he's got left to bring the guy down with is his jersey. In fact, Roy positions himself to make that tackle.

I LOVE to watch Roy pulverize opponents. Fav all time hit was the one he layed on Toomer..and that was thiiiiis close to being penalized.

So, I'm not a fan of flag football rules. In fact, I used to love to watch Jack Tatum, Butkus, Atwater...our own Cliff Harris, Too Tall, etc...

But this tackle, in my estimation, is done with the intent to cause harm in a different way than a massive hit.

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There is something to be said about your argument.

What amazes me is that it takes considerable strength to do what he does with that kind of force. I'm amazed it's taken how many years for this to suddenly be a problem?

Juke99 · 03-23-2005

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

There is something to be said about your argument.

What amazes me is that it takes considerable strength to do what he does with that kind of force. I'm amazed it's taken how many years for this to suddenly be a problem?

Yeah...interesting perspective...I've wondered the same thing...

In fact, I really can't recall ever seeing a player attempt to tackle in this manner.

The thing that concerns me is, IF the NFL doesn't do something, we can all talk all the brash talk we want...but one of our players is going to pay because that's just the nature of the league. The players will figure out a way to "legislate"...and I wonder what we'll be saying when Sean Taylor or someone else, takes Julius Jones out for a season with the same kind of tackle.

djmajestik · 03-23-2005

So now, from behind, players have to decide mid-leap mind you, that they cannot grab the collar, and if they do, then they need to let go IMMEDIATELY and let the runner go. If they happen to grap a facemask, they must IMMEDIATELY let go. And they must make this split second decision IMMEDIATELY.

And they must not lead with their head. Who here has ever tried to hit someone and wrap up without dipping your head??

And all these thoughts must happen in what .... half a second??

I understand that some plays (spearing and the like) must be banned but let them play football. If they happen to grab someone's collar while diving to make a game saving tackle, and bring the player down, so be it.

If they lead with their head with the intent to wrap up and in the process catch the crown of their helmet on the chin, so be it.

This is football. It's about time we started letting these guys that make millions of dollars play the game, instead of forcing them to make decisions that, let's face it, very few if any people could make.

My two cents,

djmajestik · 03-23-2005

And yes, I would be upset if JJ was taken out by a collar tackle for the season, but it's part of the game. Players get injured. I can't blame S Taylor for hurting a player while in the middle of making a tackle.

It happens!

Cbz40 · 03-23-2005

You make a good argument Juke.........something to think about indeed.