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Old 12-08-2011   #1
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Default What Really Happened Aboard Air France 447
Pretty good read.

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For more than two years, the disappearance of Air France Flight 447 over the mid-Atlantic in the early hours of June 1, 2009, remained one of aviation's great mysteries. How could a technologically state-of-the art airliner simply vanish?

With the wreckage and flight-data recorders lost beneath 2 miles of ocean, experts were forced to speculate using the only data available: a cryptic set of communications beamed automatically from the aircraft to the airline's maintenance center in France. As PM found in our cover story about the crash, published two years ago this month, the data implied that the plane had fallen afoul of a technical problem—the icing up of air-speed sensors—which in conjunction with severe weather led to a complex "error chain" that ended in a crash and the loss of 228 lives.

Read more: Air France 447 Flight-Data Recorder Transcript - What Really Happened Aboard Air France 447 - Popular Mechanics
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PBS (maybe Nova) had a program on this that was really interesting.
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PBS (maybe Nova) had a program on this that was really interesting.
I watched the same program. Good stuff.
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Holy cow Bonin screwed them the whole way
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Couldn't imagine what they all went through.
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Holy cow Bonin screwed them the whole way
Fascinating read. And you nailed it...Bonin doomed them.
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Fascinating read. And you nailed it...Bonin doomed them.
Nods, the other guy even told him to stop ascending, yet he couldn't help himself and 220+ people died because of it.
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That was some intense reading. I can't imagine being on that plane!
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Holy moly.

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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Wow, just read the transcript now. Unbelievably scary. They effectively pancaked into the ocean.
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After this accident, the million-dollar question is whether training, instrumentation, and cockpit procedures can be modified all around the world so that no one will ever make this mistake again—or whether the inclusion of the human element will always entail the possibility of a catastrophic outcome.

Read more: Air France 447 Flight-Data Recorder Transcript - What Really Happened Aboard Air France 447 - Popular Mechanics
Yes, that possibility will always exist due to the inclusion of the human element. Failure is a part of life. The possibility of overcoming adversity also exists because of the inclusion of the human element. The right crew could have overcome this situation. Part of the human element is also learning from these types of incidents.
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Yes, that possibility will always exist due to the inclusion of the human element. Failure is a part of life. The possibility of overcoming adversity also exists because of the inclusion of the human element. The right crew could have overcome this situation. Part of the human element is also learning from these types of incidents.
Little good that learning did them.
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Little good that learning did them.
I am not sure what you mean. How can they possibly learn from their own fatal mistakes?

Other pilots will be able to learn from their mistakes. That matters. That is why it is critical to find out why the wreck occurred, so you can take that information and use it for the future.
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I am not sure what you mean. How can they possibly learn from their own fatal mistakes?
I was just stating the obvious.

Although they did actually learn from it. (Bonin anyhow, the others knew better) It was made abundantly clear to him about 2000 feet above sea level. :/ Too little too late. (which was the point I was making)

The fact that the yokes aren't locked together like on Boeing aircraft is just another reason to not buy Airbus.

Like they say, if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going! Not really true in my case, but I definitely prefer to fly Boeing than Airbus.
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