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Hostile · 12-17-2011

Manning is coming back and will be 100%.

What is your bottom line asking price on Andrew Luck?

basstapp · 12-17-2011

I would take 2 (1st round picks) + 2 (second round picks) + a 3rd rounder.

If it is too high I walk away with one of the best qb prospects since manning

visionary · 12-17-2011

if bill polian is as smart as people think he goes with luck all the way

trade or cut manning

SkinsHokieFan · 12-17-2011

He won't get anything more then the Eli trade. This year's 1st, this year's 3rd, next year 1st and 5th

In particular with RG3 and Barkley coming out, along with the fact that everyone will know they cannot have both Luck and Manning on the same roster. And Manning in untradeable with his bonus.

We'll see if they have the balls to cut Peyton

Hostile · 12-17-2011

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Originally Posted by basstapp

I would take 2 (1st round picks) + 2 (second round picks) + a 3rd rounder.

If it is too high I walk away with one of the best qb prospects since manning

This is close to where I am. First of all I would not trade out of the top 5. I would want three 1sts and this year's 2nd.

SkinsHokieFan · 12-17-2011

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This is close to where I am. First of all I would not trade out of the top 5. I would want three 1sts and this year's 2nd.

Now that we know what Indy would want, who would actually be able to do this

The Redskins, if things stay as they are today, will be pick 4, the highest of the QB depserate teams

Cleveland is at 8 and has that 2nd first round pick from ATL as well

Miami is at 7

Is Indy willing to trade down to 8th and potentially miss out on an impact player who could help Peyton immediately?

super8 · 12-17-2011

a Ditka trade - a Hershel Trase - A Julio Jones trade

but I keep them both Luck an Manning

I mean Manning has to much to know what to with already - I talk about restructure to him - he should know his Career is over get out now while you can still move that head

so he can soak in what he can of Manning's mind

BraveHeartFan · 12-17-2011

It would have to be a stupid, stupid, stupid type deal from a team. I'm talking something like the Walker trade or what Ditka gave up for Williams. Something just incredibly stupid before I'd do anything other than draft Luck.

SkinsHokieFan · 12-17-2011

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Originally Posted by super8

a Ditka trade - a Hershel Trase - A Julio Jones trade

but I keep them both Luck an Manning

I mean Manning has to much to know what to with already - I talk about restructure to him - he should know his Career is over get out now while you can still move that head

so he can soak in what he can of Manning's mind

Why would Peyton Manning re-structure at all?

And how would you tell a 100 percent healthy Peyton "we are gonna stick you behind an 0-16 team and not use our biggest asset to improve this team"

super8 · 12-17-2011

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Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

Why would Peyton Manning re-structure at all?

And how would you tell a 100 percent healthy Peyton "we are gonna stick you behind an 0-16 team and not use our biggest asset to improve this team"

so he healthy ????????? ok mr Doctor

Sep 8, 2011 - Indianapolis Colts QB Peyton Manning had a third surgery to repair a herniated disc in his neck on Thursday,

One report speculates Manning could return to action in as few as 2-3 months after today's anterior cervical fusion procedure, but it is clear that patients who have undergone similar procedures require a wide range of recovery times depending on the extent of the injury, the individual's overall health, and the surgical approach itself.

In March, 2010, Manning underwent his first surgery to relieve pain in his throwing arm that was related to pressure from a bulging (herniated) disc being applied to nerves in his cervical spine

However, during the early offseason Manning's pain returned. An MRI of the neck again revealed a herniated disc, prompting a second neck surgery (also by Dr. Fessler) in May of this year. Because it was his second procedure, Manning was expected to require 6-8 weeks of rest and rehabilitation

It is clear, though, that the recovery from this second procedure did not go according to plan, prompting Thursday's reported surgery

he got a gazillons dollars already

why WOULD A GUY AS SMART AS Manning risk his overall health

I try a restcucture his deal and let Luck soaj up all he can

SkinsHokieFan · 12-17-2011

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Originally Posted by super8

so he healthy ????????? ok mr Doctor

Sep 8, 2011 - Indianapolis Colts QB Peyton Manning had a third surgery to repair a herniated disc in his neck on Thursday,

One report speculates Manning could return to action in as few as 2-3 months after today's anterior cervical fusion procedure, but it is clear that patients who have undergone similar procedures require a wide range of recovery times depending on the extent of the injury, the individual's overall health, and the surgical approach itself.

In March, 2010, Manning underwent his first surgery to relieve pain in his throwing arm that was related to pressure from a bulging (herniated) disc being applied to nerves in his cervical spine

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From December 3rd

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...ows/51926116/1

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On Dec. 1, Manning's doctor issued a statement saying the fusion had healed firmly and Manning could increase the intensity of his workouts.
That was the best news the Colts (0-13) have had in this miserable season. On Dec. 2, Manning acknowledged that additional throwing would be the next step in his recovery. Team officials have kept Manning on the active roster, hoping he could return to practice before the Jan. 1 season finale at Jacksonville.

How much more can Manning now do?

"Once he's fused, he's stable to play," said Anders Cohen, chief of neurosurgery and spine surgery at the Brooklyn Hospital Center who did not treat Manning. Asked how long it would take Manning to regain the strength in his throwing arm, Cohen said: "I would suspect it probably happened while the bone was knitting."

Hos' assumption is Manning is 100% healthy. So your entire little post there is moot.

The Colts owe Manning a 28 million dollar bonus 5 days before the current league year ends, so the only option is cut him or give him the bonus.

A restructure would go like this

Polian: "Hey Peyton, we'd like you to re-do your deal so you get less money right now, and WE get to choose which team you go to instead of you making the choice. Oh by the way, we also get to take key resources from that team as compensation for you. How does that sound Peyton?"

Peyton: "Gee golly, where do I sign up for that deal? You mean instead of me having leverage, I give it all to you for no reason at all?"

super8 · 12-17-2011

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Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

From December 3rd

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...ows/51926116/1

Hos' assumption is Manning is 100% healthy. So your entire little post there is moot.

The Colts owe Manning a 28 million dollar bonus 5 days before the current league year ends, so the only option is cut him or give him the bonus.

A restructure would go like this

Polian: "Hey Peyton, we'd like you to re-do your deal so you get less money right now, and WE get to choose which team you go to instead of you making the choice. Oh by the way, we also get to take key resources from that team as compensation for you. How does that sound Peyton?"

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Hos' assumption is Manning is 100% healthy.

that hos's assumption

no wonder your a fan of the skins

sorry dude am not going toi agrue

I stated what I would do

SkinsHokieFan · 12-17-2011

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Originally Posted by super8

Hos' assumption is Manning is 100% healthy.

that hos's assumption

no wonder your a fan of the skins

Uh, thats the whole point of this thread.

Its a hypothetical.

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adjective Also, hy·po·thet·ic ( for defs. 1–4 ) .
1.
assumed by hypothesis; supposed: a hypothetical case.
2.
of, pertaining to, involving, or characterized by hypothesis: hypothetical reasoning.
3.
given to making hypotheses.
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a.
(of a proposition) highly conjectural; not well supported by available evidence.
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(of a proposition or syllogism) conditional.

From Hos' OP

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Originally Posted by Hostile

Manning is coming back and will be 100%.

What is your bottom line asking price on Andrew Luck?

Reading comprehension my friend

Wolfpack · 12-17-2011

I don't think they pass on Luck. Manning is cooked and extra draft picks would never get to deliver their real value until Manning was gone.

If they did choose too, I think they would want 3 (1)s plus want ever else they could get.

burmafrd · 12-17-2011

they will need to rebuild their O line; it was put together for Mannings particular talents and no one else; as has been made clear this season. So unless Luck can play exactly like Manning that has to be done; and the D needs a lot of help as well. No way can you trade Manning due to his contract and health issues. They really are in a bind.

So I would take Luck and then use the rest of the draft to fill what holes you can; and then start manning next year while Luck watches and learns. All the while doing everything you can to fix the holes.

No way you really can let Luck go; who knows how long Manning has?