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Portland Fanatic · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by TheSkaven

Thanks much for the recap! He might be on to something saying the Cowboys are the second best team in the NFC. It's a bad conference that quite possibly got worse this off-season. Green Bay and Minnesota both took steps back. I'd probably put the boys behind Seattle, Atlanta and Carolina but let's see what happens in the draft.

Minny got worse??? I don't think so! They greatly improved their defense...

**WoodysGirl** · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by Portland Fanatic

Minny got worse??? I don't think so! They greatly improved their defense...

I agree about Minny. Although you can't sneeze at any of Carolina's moves or even the Giants' moves, Minny by far, is the most improved team in the NFC, on paper. They've still got a solid WR corp even without Moss and proved when he went down that they could still post 30 pts or more on any given team. Their D needed work and they worked on it. So, IMO, they're the team to watch going into the season for right now.

As for Key, I like him. I like his attitude. I like his arrogance. I liked his performance last year. I mainly like his enthusiasm for the team.

yesfan · 03-30-2005

I like Key.He backs up what he says,you
have to respect that.

Nors · 03-30-2005

Key is buttering Bledsoe up so He'll throw the rock to him!

On a serious note - those that have seen Bledsoe play over the years in person know who the real players are. Glenn and Key know first hand what Bledsoe can do. If we can take out the Eagles a Super Bowl is not far fetched. Rest of NFC sucks.

PA Cowboy · 03-30-2005

"Said the draft gurus don't know what Parcells is going to do and pointed out that they all thought Parcells would draft a rb in the first round last season."

True, but didn't Dallas use it's first pick in 2004 (2nd round - #11, #43 overall, from Buffalo) to draft JJ?

TheSkaven · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by Woody'sGirl

I agree about Minny. Although you can't sneeze at any of Carolina's moves or even the Giants' moves, Minny by far, is the most improved team in the NFC, on paper. They've still got a solid WR corp even without Moss and proved when he went down that they could still post 30 pts or more on any given team.

Interesting that you say that.

2004 Minnesota Vikings:
With Randy Moss: 7-5
Without Randy Moss: 1-4

Randy's loss is going to be felt, he has carried that team. I don't like the "improvements" that Minnesota made on defense either, Fred Smoot is overrated, and having two midget cornerbacks is a minus for them, not a plus. Napolean Harris is an average linebacker. Lucky for them, the Packers took a step backward and the Lions/Bears are still bottom feeders.

speedkilz88 · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by TheSkaven

Interesting that you say that.

2004 Minnesota Vikings:
With Randy Moss: 7-5
Without Randy Moss: 1-4

Randy's loss is going to be felt, he has carried that team. I don't like the "improvements" that Minnesota made on defense either, Fred Smoot is overrated, and having two midget cornerbacks is a minus for them, not a plus. Napolean Harris is an average linebacker. Lucky for them, the Packers took a step backward and the Lions/Bears are still bottom feeders.

Yeah, the Vikings should be the best in the central, but Moss is a huge loss. The Packers really should have some problems losing Wahle and Rivera. Favre wasn't very good last year and without a quality line he should be in trouble. Detroit may be the one team to give the Vikings competition and thats if they get decent play out of their qbs.

tyke1doe · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by PA Cowboy

"Said the draft gurus don't know what Parcells is going to do and pointed out that they all thought Parcells would draft a rb in the first round last season."

True, but didn't Dallas use it's first pick in 2004 (2nd round - #11, #43 overall, from Buffalo) to draft JJ?

I doubt the Cowboys would have taken a running back in the first round even if they hadn't traded with Buffalo.

I think Shawn Andrews and Vince Wilfork were the Cowboys' target before they were scooped up.

My gut feeling is that the Cowboys will take Pollack. I wasn't all that high on him at first. But seeing all these mocks saying we want Merriman, we want Spears, we want Mike Williams, Pollack is hanging out there, and he could be an OLB or even a DE. And I think we can fall back a few slots and still pick him up.

tyke1doe · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by TheSkaven

Interesting that you say that.

2004 Minnesota Vikings:
With Randy Moss: 7-5
Without Randy Moss: 1-4

Randy's loss is going to be felt, he has carried that team. I don't like the "improvements" that Minnesota made on defense either, Fred Smoot is overrated, and having two midget cornerbacks is a minus for them, not a plus. Napolean Harris is an average linebacker. Lucky for them, the Packers took a step backward and the Lions/Bears are still bottom feeders.

I believe the guy Minnesota is looking at with the #7 pick is NOT Mike Wiliams but Cedric Benson. Tice wants the Vikings to be a power team, which is one reason I believe they got rid of Moss. Minny had to feed Moss' ego but feeding him the ball. And generally speaking, teams that rely on the pass develop a softness about them. Sure, they score points and win games, but matched with a team that has a better defense and a more ball-controlled offense, they end up losing.

I believe the Vikings will turn the corner if they get that power running back. And please don't mention O. Smith or Michael Bennett. They're fragile backs who can provide an occasional big play, but can't carry a team.

**WoodysGirl** · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by TheSkaven

Interesting that you say that.

2004 Minnesota Vikings:
With Randy Moss: 7-5
Without Randy Moss: 1-4

Randy's loss is going to be felt, he has carried that team. I don't like the "improvements" that Minnesota made on defense either, Fred Smoot is overrated, and having two midget cornerbacks is a minus for them, not a plus. Napolean Harris is an average linebacker. Lucky for them, the Packers took a step backward and the Lions/Bears are still bottom feeders.

Their D is what cost them games; they couldn't keep their opponents out of the end zone. How many times did they lose a game in a shootout? Too many. Their ability to put up points is unquestioned and they did it without Moss. I believe they've addressed some of their defensive needs. Because whatever you feel about them, Smoot, Sharper, and Harris ARE upgrades over what they have/had. In addition to that, they have two #1s like us, guaranteeing their ability to gain even more defensive impact players if they so chose.

So again, ON PAPER, I think they're a team to watch.

ShiningStar · 03-30-2005

Minnesota has greatly improved and by dropping Moss..you can say how great he is and throw stats but they havent won a SB with him, and it was the D as well which is why they traded him for a d guy.

He was their albatross and they dumped it. If they get a WR or RB that has greatly improved their offense as well. They stocked up on D in the Fa and can use the draft to pick up some WR and future prospects.

Good moves by this team finally and for once i might take them seriously. IM sorry Winfiend and Smoot in the back plus Sharper and Harris. You must not really be attention to say this team isnt improved somewhere.

Juke99 · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by speedkilz88

He said that Bledsoe hasn't lost anything, that he still throws like he always has and that mediots that have downed him don't get it, just because Bledsoe never threw for 30 tds doesn't mean anything because it matters what kind of offense the team is running. As an example he said that Tony Dungy in TB only asked his qb to move from the 20 to the 20 and then ran Alstott so he could win a game 9-7.

Said that Bledsoe is the third best QB in the nfc. That McNabb and Culpepper were the only ones ahead of him. Mentioned Hasselbeck and said, you think Hasselbeck is better than Bledsoe, slightly giggling/smirking. Mentioned Vick and said as a pure QB he wasn't as good as Bledsoe.

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Thanks MUCHO Speed...

Favre is better than Bledsoe...in fact, Favre had a better season last year than just about ANY season Bledsoe has put up in his career.

Delhomme is better. 29TD's to 15 Int's...When has Bledsoe done that?

Hasselback is in fact, better.

Bulger put up FAR better numbers than Bledsoe did.

Just a silly statement by Keyshawn...

As far as the Mike Williams comment...so, the sin in a rookie sitting at the #3 WR slot is what?

Gibby! · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by Nors

Key is buttering Bledsoe up so He'll throw the rock to him!

On a serious note - those that have seen Bledsoe play over the years in person know who the real players are. Glenn and Key know first hand what Bledsoe can do. If we can take out the Eagles a Super Bowl is not far fetched. Rest of NFC sucks.

How does Key know first hand what Bledsoe Can do? Have they ever played on the same team together? Besides maybe a few weeks of pitch and catch here lately they havent ever played on the same team (maybe a Pro Bowl?) that I am aware of...

4lifecowboy · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by speedkilz88

Also doesn't see Parcells drafting a WR in first round. Specifically said that Mike Williams would not be drafted at #11, because he wouldn't be able to beat out Glenn or himself and would be relegated to be the third receiver. Said the draft gurus don't know what Parcells is going to do and pointed out that they all thought Parcells would draft a rb in the first round last season.

This isn't the first time Key has said something negative about Williams, he seems a little worried about the competition. Personally I think Williams is very high on the Boy's draft board, anywhere from 1-3. I would go as far to say Key has no idea who Parcell's is targeting.

followthestar · 03-30-2005

i see Carolina mentioned once or twice here casually. if we can agree that they played lights-out in '03, and overcame half a roster worth of injuries last season to gain even more respectability, i think we have to include the Panthers as a team to watch carefully. delhomme is a QB who i would take to start over bledsoe in a heartbeat...
as for Minny, they may make some noise. if the TEAM comes together they could win homefield throughout, simply by virtue of being in the North. they made some major changes though - we'll see what they can do without Moss.
as for the Eagles, i also believe if we can get past them in the playoffs or someone else knocks them off, we have a real chance to shock the world. of course, we have to get there first. that's why they play the game...