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01-14-2012
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Cowboys falling in love with Upshaw?
According to Broaddus, the Cowboys are falling in love with Upshaw and his versatility.
At that moment a voice came over me and said, Look up, get up, and don't ever give up. You tell everyone or anyone that has ever doubted, thought they did not measure up or wanted to quit, you tell them to look up, get up and don't ever give up. - Michael Irvin
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When i watch him I see a solid guy, more solid than Spencer, but not a difference or play maker. 14 has to be a difference maker not an upgrade.
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I like Hightower more than I like Upshaw. He's bigger, he's got far more experience as a leader/playcaller, and I think he may be just as good at rushing the passer.
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did you hear this on the radio?
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spencer looked better in college then upshaw. Idk if he is in play at 14. Seems like a reach. He is a good all around guy but is not a beast rushing the passer. Basically he seems like another spencer. Just a rookie. Maybe he has a better motor. IDK.
But he is probably the most ready to play SOLB as a rookie.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack
did you hear this on the radio?
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I actually got it from a tweet from another former poster on here. Tim Macmahon verified it. I'll try to post the podcast later.
At that moment a voice came over me and said, Look up, get up, and don't ever give up. You tell everyone or anyone that has ever doubted, thought they did not measure up or wanted to quit, you tell them to look up, get up and don't ever give up. - Michael Irvin
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01-14-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jblaze2004
spencer looked better in college then upshaw. Idk if he is in play at 14. Seems like a reach. He is a good all around guy but is not a beast rushing the passer. Basically he seems like another spencer. Just a rookie. Maybe he has a better motor. IDK.
But he is probably the most ready to play SOLB as a rookie.
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Well said.
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Link please
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Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ever was.
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Yeah...............on January 14th.
And again, we have Upshaw, his name is Spencer.
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#10
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wes bunting on upshaw
A physically imposing put together linebacker/defensive end hybrid who will stand up and play with his hand on the ground. Displays only average straight-line speed when asked to close from the backside. However, is quicker/more coordinated than fast in tight areas and gets up to speed quickly. Generates a lot of natural power on contact as a tackler. Is long armed, has a snap through his hips into contact and consistently exhibits the power to strike and wrap off his frame. Reads and reacts well in space, deciphers information quickly and doesn't take many false steps trying to find the ball.
He doesn't get much depth in his drop vs. the pass game. Is coordinated and keeps his feet under him, but is tighter in the hips and isn't going to hold up at the next level in space or man consistently.
Is extremely violent/powerful with his hands when attacking downhill. Consistently is able to take on blocks, disengage and make his way toward the football vs. both the run and pass game. Is at his best as a pass rusher standing up. Looks more sudden/shifty laterally off the ball from a two point stance and can win with power on his bull rush, with his hands or side step a block and fight through contact. Plays down in most nickel situations and when run at has the power to anchor at the point vs. SEC offensive tackles. Is violent/coordinated when asked to shed, has a good motor and can disengage consistently and make plays off his frame. Isn't as natural a pass rusher with his hand down at this stage. Is a bit inconsistent getting off the snap on time and is more of a power player only. Does a nice job sitting into his stance, keeping his base down off the football and generating leverage for himself vs. the bull rush. But doesn't do a great job suddenly changing directions and shedding when engaged. Loves to work the club/rip when trying to reach the corner both when down and standing up, can keep himself clean and works hard to close, but again displays only an average burst in pursuit.
Impression: I like him as a 34 outside backer who can play on the strong side, take on linemen at the point and also rush the passer. He's at his best attacking downhill, using his strong hands to disengage and always is around the football. Looks like a year one starter to me at the next level with scheme versatility.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...l&player=38714
Last edited by jblaze2004 : 01-14-2012 at 04:32 PM.
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01-14-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
Well said.
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Remember, Spencer played DE in college, NOT OLB. So, that's like comparing apples to oranges.
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#12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffInDC
Remember, Spencer played DE in college, NOT OLB. So, that's like comparing apples to oranges.
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yeah but they both rush the passer. They both a basically on the LOS. Spencer was still better. Had more sacks and TFL.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDogo
Yeah...............on January 14th.
And again, we have Upshaw, his name is Spencer.
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I'm not a fan of Upsahw @ 14. I would not pull the trigger but I see the logic if Spencer walks and DeCastro is gone.
I will say this. I think Upshaw and Ingram have a higher & more consistent motor than Spencer. For what it's worth, I would keep Spencer for 4-5 million/year.
And I think Ingram has more versatility. He's played DT, DE and OLB.
I am a Dallas Cowboys fan on a Dallas Cowboys forum. I will probably defend my team if I feel the need. If this in some way offends you, I invite you to avoid my posts.
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01-14-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dough Boy
I'm not a fan of Upsahw @ 14. I would not pull the trigger but I see the logic if Spencer walks and DeCastro is gone.
I will say this. I think Upshaw and Ingram have a higher & more consistent motor than Spencer. For what it's worth, I would keep Spencer for 4-5 million/year.
And I think Ingram has more versatility. He's played DT, DE and OLB.
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Yep to a certain extent.
The only difference is that I would consider one of the top corners at #14 also.
If the top corners are gone and DeCastro is gone, I'm looking to trade down.
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