Cordy Glenn

[rkell87]

i see glenn more like brian waters instead of larry allen

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by MarionBarberThe4th

Whispers are he's just as good as decastro and we could buy ourselves some nice ammunition trading back

I don't know if he's just as good as DeCastro, but there ain't much of a difference...

My current belief is the Cowboys should sit tight at 14 and hope that DeCastro falls to them... if he doesn't. trade down to the low 20s, add another second rounder (looking at how my draft spreadsheet is shaping up right now, I really like the talent likely to be available in the second), and draft Glenn...

Ideally, the Boys would already have signed Carl Nicks in free agency, and you'd have a pair of agile 350 pounders manning your guard slots...

[MarionBarberThe4th]

We might need decastro there to get full value for the pick though

If we go from 14 to 21-23 and pick up 53-55 in the process and get
Glenn
Merciless
Irvin
To go along with Nicks and Finnegan I'll take it. I would not take a CB there, he'd be our #4.

Originally Posted by silverbear

I don't know if he's just as good as DeCastro, but there ain't much of a difference...

My current belief is the Cowboys should sit tight at 14 and hope that DeCastro falls to them... if he doesn't. trade down to the low 20s, add another second rounder (looking at how my draft spreadsheet is shaping up right now, I really like the talent likely to be available in the second), and draft Glenn...

Ideally, the Boys would already have signed Carl Nicks in free agency, and you'd have a pair of agile 350 pounders manning your guard slots...

[Randy White]

I agree with much that with only one caviat:

When I trade down, I'm making sure it's still ahead of the Chargers because there's no way SD is passing on Glenn now.

However, I would use that to my advantage in another way. I'd use DeCastro to extract at least a 2nd round pick out of San Diego, plus other considerations, if they're desperate enough. I don't mind trading down to #18, getting the Chargers 2nd (49th? overall ) in the process.

I could do some serious damage with the 45th and 49th picks in the 2nd round.

[InmanRoshi]

I actually like Glenn a little bit more than DeCastro. DeCastro is a fine technician, he got really good coaching in college, but if I'm drafting a guard with a Top 15 pick he better be a freak of nature who is blowing people 5 yards off the ball in college ala Larry Allen in his prime, and I never see DeCastro doing that.


I think Glenn will eventually be just as good as a guard once he's allowed to move inside and focus on a much easier position and receive NFL caliber coaching. Plus I think he has a little more ceiling and he has the versatility to play multiple positions. I really don't think he would have much problem playing right tackle in the NFL, although he might be better at guard, because his arm length and wingspan at 35 1/8. Anything over 35 inches is freak caliber wingspan, even for offensive tackles. That's Marcus McNeil, D'Brickshaw Ferguson caliber arm length. I look at him as non-crazy Shawn Andrews.

[Chocolate Lab]

Lot of blasphemy in this thread, claiming anyone could be better than David Decastro...

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by Randy White

Hey folks:

Watch the South practices today and pay close attention to #71 wearing the Georgia Bulldogs helmet. Mr. Glenn made alot of money today.. Alot. Look closely how he moves his feet in pass protection, how he doesn't get driven back much, how he bends his knees, but more important:

How he does all of those things while playing RG, RT, LG and, yes, Left Tackle.

I just watched him cold stop Courtney Upshaw on a 7 drop step pass, block out the backside on a run to the opposite side, and pull on a sweep and take out the defensive back in consecutive plays: as a LEFT tackle.

and there he goes again, one on one against Courtney Upshaw as a left tackle and Upshaw didn't go anywhere..

He got crushed twice by Upshaw and once by Ingram in one on one drills. The jury is out on if he can play RT and LT isn't even a consideration at this point according to Mayock today.

He is a solid late R1 guy at this point but no higher and definitely not projected to play LT. Calling him Larry Allen like is pure lunacy.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

I agree I think Ingram is gone top 10 but I also think Upshaw has made himself a top 12 pick now.
The thing about the senior bowl, it makes everyone forget about the juniors. Hightower will be a beast at the NFL level and can play OLB. Also don't forget about Vontaze Burfict, yes he has concerns but I think he has worked on those this past year and will continue to mature.
hightower and Burfict have amazing strength ans speed and just always seems to be around the ball and making plays when needed. I would take Hightower before Burfict.
Hightower is ready to go day one as Burfict still needs to learn to play more disciplined and learn how to read the play more than just reacting and over running the play.

If i can't get Hightower in a trade back I would do it in a heart beat.

Ingram and Upshaw won't be high on every board. They don't have the measurables many teams want in a pass rusher. Short with short arms is a very real knock. They will be very high for Pittsburgh and some other teams though. Buffalo for one of these guys makes tons of sense, but Buffalo may also look at Spencer as an option.

There will be a couple other pass rushers go before them. Guys who are more traditional 4-3 ends.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Just caught up on the DVR, good call. Glenn looks grea, even got out in space on a screen and picked off a DB. He really can lock into the defender and turn and/or shield him from his RB. He would open holes, not just hold on for dear life.

And all the Texas School DL look jagtastic.

Coples is a baby Peppers all the way. Great athlete and very strong but he doesn't always love to compete

[MarionBarberThe4th]

He got crushed twice by Upshaw and once by Ingram in one on one drills. The jury is out on if he can play RT and LT isn't even a consideration at this point according to Mayock today.

He gave a little ground to coples in 1 on 1. I didn't see what you said VS those guys. Especially in live action

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by tm1119

But on another note, does anybody actually see us drafting a 340+lb guard? Isnt Garrett's philosophy to have athletic guards who are on the smaller side? Not saying I agree with this or that I would stay away from Glenn personally, just asking how realistic it is that we are looking at the kid given Garrett's
philosophies.

Well, remember that when the Boys needed OL help in the course of last season, they turned to two pretty big ol' boys, Montrae Holland and Derrick Dockery... they're both 325 pounders...

And while Tyron Smith, Bill Nagy and David Arkin were only a little over 300 pounds when the Boys drafted them last year, all were projected to have the growth potential to play at 315-320 pounds...

So yeah, Garrett wants athletic linemen, but it would appear that he likes them athletic AND big... so do I... Glenn fits that profile, IMO...

So does Carl Nicks, FWIW...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

Cordy Glenn to me, and who had seen him play every game the last three years, he is better fit at OG but can be your #3 OT when needed. He is a more agile Orlando Franklin. I said it before, Glenn reminds me alotof Larry Allen

I think that last sentence is a little over the top, he's bigger than Larry was, but nowhere near as athletic (Allen came out of college running a sub-5 second 40, which would be .25-.3 seconds faster than Glenn is likely to time)...

But other than that, I think you're spot on in your analysis of Glenn... he can indeed play tackle in a pinch, though I'd limit him to RT... don't think he has the quickness to handle the speed rushers he'd be likely to face at LT...

But hey, gimme a guy who can play RG, LG and RT for you, and play any of them well... we have of course disagreed some in the recent past, but we're on the same page here...

Had to happen someday...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by Randy White

I agree with much that with only one caviat:

When I trade down, I'm making sure it's still ahead of the Chargers because there's no way SD is passing on Glenn now.

However, I would use that to my advantage in another way. I'd use DeCastro to extract at least a 2nd round pick out of San Diego, plus other considerations, if they're desperate enough. I don't mind trading down to #18, getting the Chargers 2nd (49th? overall ) in the process.

I could do some serious damage with the 45th and 49th picks in the 2nd round.

Sounds like a plan to me, RW... now, let's get Jerry and Jason on board...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by jterrell

He is a solid late R1 guy at this point but no higher and definitely not projected to play LT. Calling him Larry Allen like is pure lunacy.

Yeah, but calling anybody Larry Allen-like is pure lunacy... we'll never see another like him...

[Zaxor]

Yup I am already on board with the statement that I think Glenn in the long run will be a better pro than DeCastro