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02-28-2012
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David DeCastro may not be worth a first round pick
The Dallas Cowboys could certainly use some offensive line help next season, so when the name David DeCastro came up as a potential draft target came up, no one seemed to outright question whether the Stanford guard was worth a spot in the first round ... except one writer.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/ar...owboys-dr.html
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02-28-2012
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I dont agree with this at all, but thought I would post what one writer thinks. I guess a writer knows more than scouts.
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02-28-2012
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I'm obviously pro DeCastro, but I appreciate an opposing view. I don't think any of the points raised in the article are so far fetched. I'm just not sure I see that "franchise cornerback or pass rusher" in this draft being there at #14.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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02-28-2012
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The Excellence of Execution
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And folks, this is why Kirwan doesn't have a job in the NFL anymore.
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02-28-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCount
I'm obviously pro DeCastro, but I appreciate an opposing view. I don't think any of the points raised in the article are so far fetched. I'm just not sure I see that "franchise cornerback or pass rusher" in this draft being there at #14.
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I see one franchise CB and one pass rusher. The thng is those players go in the top 10. Sitting at 14 your not going to get a franchise CB or pass rusher.
Claiborne and Ingram, after that its Decastro.
Also yes DeCastro has a weakness, he will be a rookie, all rookies have a weakness. Luck has problems he needs to fix. The thing with DeCastro is his problems are small and he is a smart kid that works hard. That weakness he has can be fixed, that doesn't mean he isn't a 1st round pick just because he has a weakness.
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02-28-2012
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Fortunately, there's a prospect worthy of such a pick in this year's draft class: Stanford OG David DeCastro. An interior lineman in the Top 15? NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock doesn't think it's a ridiculous suggestion.
"I think with DeCastro, when you get him, you're going to plug him in Day 1, and he's going to be your starting guard," Mayock indicated, per the Star-Telegram. "He could be your starter for the next 10 years. That's what the Cowboys need. They need to get younger and more athletic in that offensive line. They started it last year with Tyron Smith. The Bill Nagy kid is not bad. They need to continue that."
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02-28-2012
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I'd pose this question to Kirwin: Who is the sure fire "franchise" CB at pick 14? Fitzpatrick? Jenkins? And who is the sure fire franchise pass rusher at 14?
IMO, DeCastro is likely to be the most certain "franchise" pick at 14.
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02-28-2012
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If we upgrade with a veteran center, I would feel good with Smith, DeCastro, Vet, Nagy, and Free next year. Really good.
Heck we might even have Philip Blake at Center.
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02-28-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCount
I'm just not sure I see that "franchise cornerback or pass rusher" in this draft being there at #14.
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Me either. Kirwan is ignoring that a guy like DeCastro can help Murray, Jones and Romo become franchise players. We need someone to anchor the middle of the line.
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02-28-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSport78
And folks, this is why Kirwan doesn't have a job in the NFL anymore.
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Well not neccessarily-how many guards have been picked in the first round over the past ten years? How many corners? How many pass rushers?
Kirwan is not the only person who retains this theory.
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02-28-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh_Canada
Well not neccessarily-how many guards have been picked in the first round over the past ten years, how many corners? How many pass rushers?
Kirwan is not the only person who retains this theory?
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why would it matter how many G have been taken middle of the 1st? Those who have like Steve Hutchinson went on to have great careers. Reason so many scouts rank DeCastro this high is they see his talent.
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02-28-2012
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You know, I kind of agree. Kind of, in that, DeCastro is definitely worth a first round pick but I don't believe he will be to the Dallas Cowboys. I like DeCastro just fine, but our team does not put a premium on interior lineman.
I think Zeitler or Silatolu will be the guard we come away with.
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02-28-2012
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The Excellence of Execution
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh_Canada
Well not neccessarily-how many guards have been picked in the first round over the past ten years? How many corners? How many pass rushers?
Kirwan is not the only person who retains this theory.
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DeCastro is one of the best interior lineman prospects in recent memory. You can find negatives with ANY player, but the fact is, DeCastro would be a day 1 starter and would stabilize one of our guard positions for the next 8-10 years. If there's a sure-thing in this draft, it's DeCastro IMO.
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02-28-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomsday101
why would it matter how many G have been taken middle of the 1st? Those who have like Steve Hutchinson went on to have great careers. Reason so many scouts rank DeCastro this high is they see his talent.
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All I am saying is that Kirwan doesn't see the value in taking a guard on the first round, that's not the reason he is no longer a decision maker in the NFL. You gave me Hutchinson as an example of a premium guard which is fine, but how impactful was he really? Before you mention playoffs after 2006, remember that the Vikings were the #1 rated defense for a big chunk of his early years with the Vikings. The offense was pedestrian.
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02-28-2012
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DeCastro is overaggressive? Sounds like a good thing if the guy is smart enough to figure things out with the right coaching.
Anyway, didn't Kirwin say Ware would not be a good pick in the 1st round because he was from a small school? I guess he was right.
Garrett to players: Make today a great day; go about the business of winning! If you can't keep up then don't step up.
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