Arkansas pro day

[newnationcb]

Beyond 40 yard discrepancies, a 40 inch vertical should tell you that whoever it is has ELITE, WORLD CLASS, lower body explosiveness.

So if you saw 4.41 on tape, then go with that number.

[Deep_Freeze]

Well I will say, I figure if there is a year that Jerry takes a Hog in the draft, this might be a decent year to do it.

I've never really wanted any Hogs for us, but judging on the predicted draft positions and needs of our team, Bequette, Adams, and Franklin have to be on our watch list come draft time.

[realtick]

Originally Posted by overseas

I'd still like to take him late

he was a first rounder before the knee problems

I'm a big Greg Childs fan, been so for the past two seasons.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Well I will say, I figure if there is a year that Jerry takes a Hog in the draft, this might be a decent year to do it.

For all the completely misplaced "Jerry loves to draft Razorbacks" comments you see in the national media, I'm thinking we should draft *more* of them. They've had a lot of talented players the last several years.

[Muhast]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

For all the completely misplaced "Jerry loves to draft Razorbacks" comments you see in the national media, I'm thinking we should draft *more* of them. They've had a lot of talented players the last several years.

We need to draft more sec players in general.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

For all the completely misplaced "Jerry loves to draft Razorbacks" comments you see in the national media, I'm thinking we should draft *more* of them. They've had a lot of talented players the last several years.

Yeah, and this year they have alot of players available that fit in the needs of our team and should go around 3rd-5th round.

Bequette and Adams really have my interest.

[overseas]

Pro Day Performance Shows Health, Confidence Coming Back For Former Razorback Greg Childs

Childs, who has prototypical NFL size at 6-3, 220 pounds, improved his marks from the NFL Combine in several areas. He said his combine production suffered because route running and pass catching drills were sandwiched between testing stations. Cramps set in prior to the vertical jump and the 36.5 inches he jumped led friends and family to wonder why he hadn’t been more impressive.
Following his pro day work Childs was happy to compare Tuesday to what he did in at the Combine. His 40-yard dash time dropped to 4.41 seconds. Childs posted a 40.5-inch vertical jump and broad jumped 10 feet, 7 inches. It was an improvement of four inches in the vertical and two in the broad, a pair of tests used by scouts to measure explosive ability.

http://www.arkansassports360.com/298...ck-greg-childs

[Tex]

Originally Posted by dogberry

Do they use an electronic timing setup like the combine for the 40?

Pro days are hand timed. And the way the combine does its 40 is flawed anyway. End is electronic but the start isnt if that makes sense.

They STARTED timing the 40 correctly this year at the combine and because they said it would inflate everyones times a tenth or TWO they didnt release the real times to the teams or the participants even. They said if they did guys supposedly running 4.4 would be running 4.6 something REALLY.

The end at the combine is electronic. The start is still flawed. Pretty wacked really. I posted a long message on this very subject in another thread.

Tex

[dogberry]

Thanks Tex, I'll go look for that thread.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by Tex

Pro days are hand timed. And the way the combine does its 40 is flawed anyway. End is electronic but the start isnt if that makes sense.

They STARTED timing the 40 correctly this year at the combine and because they said it would inflate everyones times a tenth or TWO they didnt release the real times to the teams or the participants even. They said if they did guys supposedly running 4.4 would be running 4.6 something REALLY.

The end at the combine is electronic. The start is still flawed. Pretty wacked really. I posted a long message on this very subject in another thread.

Tex

NFL Network got official times, so I dunno how true it is that they weren't releasing the numbers. Players on the field were also getting their times from scouts and perhaps combine staff, RG3 specifically said he was told, on the field, that he ran a 4.35

[Tex]

Originally Posted by TheCount

NFL Network got official times, so I dunno how true it is that they weren't releasing the numbers. Players on the field were also getting their times from scouts and perhaps combine staff, RG3 specifically said he was told, on the field, that he ran a 4.35

No you are not grasping what I am saying.

Try msg 40 in this thread. there is no "official" times really and any released times are not the new times they are with holding.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showth...69#post4428069

Tex

[Chocolate Lab]

That's what I always thought, Tex -- that the electronic times we see on NFLN are mainly for the fans. And that the start of the 40 is initiated when the player starts, which is one reason these times are not comparable to what you see in track times. On the track, reacting to the gun takes at least a few hundredths of a second even if a sprinter times it perfectly. Here, they don't have to react at all, they can wait until they feel everything is perfect before they start.

Plus, I've always read that most teams use their own times anyway taken by a veteran experienced hand timer. They don't care if a particular timer is a tick faster or slower than the "real" time as long as they are consistent with it, which takes hundreds to thousands of times to perfect. It's like a scale being off by a few pounds... It doesn't really matter as long as it's consistent and you can still tell how you compare to your baseline.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

That's what I always thought, Tex -- that the electronic times we see on NFLN are mainly for the fans. And that the start of the 40 is initiated when the player starts, which is one reason these times are not comparable to what you see in track times. On the track, reacting to the gun takes at least a few hundredths of a second even if a sprinter times it perfectly. Here, they don't have to react at all, they can wait until they feel everything is perfect before they start.

Plus, I've always read that most teams use their own times anyway taken by a veteran experienced hand timer. They don't care if a particular timer is a tick faster or slower than the "real" time as long as they are consistent with it, which takes hundreds to thousands of times to perfect. It's like a scale being off by a few pounds... It doesn't really matter as long as it's consistent and you can still tell how you compare to your baseline.

Scouts time the first foot movement and that tends to be faster than first hand movement which is what the NFL does. But int he end so long as the measure is consistent that is all that matters.

The ARK WRs are hardly slow. They ate up very good DBs in college who posted 4.4 times. Everyone knows they can move. My concern with Childs would be can you trust him to be in condition to play 50 snaps a game right now.

[realtick]

Originally Posted by jterrell

Scouts time the first foot movement and that tends to be faster than first hand movement which is what the NFL does. But int he end so long as the measure is consistent that is all that matters.

The ARK WRs are hardly slow. They ate up very good DBs in college who posted 4.4 times. Everyone knows they can move. My concern with Childs would be can you trust him to be in condition to play 50 snaps a game right now.

IIRC, Childs is almost two years removed from his injury/surgery. His conditioning should be almost back to normal I would think.