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View Poll Results: Would you trade #11 with Mike Williams there for #30,#62 and Pittsburgh's 2006 first
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Yes
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04-06-2005
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Would you make this trade at #11?
Mike Williams is there, and Pittsburgh offers picks #30, #62, and their first in 2006 to move to #11.
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04-06-2005
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Originally Posted by blindzebra
Mike Williams is there, and Pittsburgh offers picks #30, #62, and their first in 2006 to move to #11.
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Dang.... that's a tough one. REAL tough one.
I think I might pass and take MW though.
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04-06-2005
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I would do it this trade if the only offer, however I would look for other options with a higher first round pick than 30.
I am sure Carolina would give Williams a serious look.
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04-06-2005
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Points don't add up. because Pitt 2 first will be around 29 next year too..
But Mike Williams. I say grab MW, tough decision but grab MW upside to to to high.....
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time."
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04-06-2005
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Old Testament...
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You need to add "Hell Yes" as an option... 
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04-06-2005
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Originally Posted by Q_the_man
Points don't add up. because Pitt 2 first will be around 29 next year too..
But Mike Williams. I say grab MW, tough decision but grab MW upside to to to high.....
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Pick #11 is worth 1250 points.
#30 is worth 650, #62 is worth 290, next year's first is valued at mid second THIS YEAR or 430 = 1370.
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04-06-2005
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Tough call, but yes I pull the trigger and make the trade. Look at Roddy White at #30...then hope for nice WR class next yr...we know the DT class will be deep next yr.
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04-06-2005
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Originally Posted by Q_the_man
Points don't add up. because Pitt 2 first will be around 29 next year too..
But Mike Williams. I say grab MW, tough decision but grab MW upside to to to high.....
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Next year's class should be a good one. I like getting depth this year and with 2 firsts next year perhaps trading up to get that 1 real difference maker of a player.
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04-06-2005
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You need to add "Hell Yes" as an option
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AND HELL NO!
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04-06-2005
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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No Way! A Mike Williams comes along once in a blue moon. If MW is there that means the football gods have smiled on you and you don't slap the football gods in the face when they give you a gift. That said, if he's there I would be shocked. But I would take him if he's there.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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04-06-2005
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Salty Bastard
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2 late first round picks and a 2nd round pick should be three starters. But we are giving up a starter (#11) this year, so we would be netting two extra starters.
I would most likely do it.
The question would be, could you get a guy like Roddy White at #30? If so, then is the guaranteed difference in value between MW and RW more than the value of two starters? I would guess no. Since there are no guarentees that MW will be great, I think the chance to pick up two additional starters while taking a step down to Roddy White would be worth it.
I say all of this even conceding that MW would probably be my #1 selection for the Cowboys this year. But that offer may be too much to pass up on.
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04-06-2005
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faster than you can say "Ron Mexico".
lol
(for those who dont know, that's Michael Vick's alias he uses when visiting the doctor for Herpes treatments... seriously.)
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04-06-2005
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I'd do it. Although i'm sure more(perhaps better) trade offers would be available to the Boys if Mike Williams dropped that far.
It's a win-win deal either way if MW or even one of the QBs drop to our pick. It adds value to our slot.
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04-06-2005
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Originally Posted by cobra
2 late first round picks and a 2nd round pick should be three starters. But we are giving up a starter (#11) this year, so we would be netting two extra starters.
I would most likely do it.
The question would be, could you get a guy like Roddy White at #30? If so, then is the guaranteed difference in value between MW and RW more than the value of two starters? I would guess no. Since there are no guarentees that MW will be great, I think the chance to pick up two additional starters while taking a step down to Roddy White would be worth it.
I say all of this even conceding that MW would probably be my #1 selection for the Cowboys this year. But that offer may be too much to pass up on.
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Actually this trade gives us #20 and #30 in the first and #42 and #62 in the second, so we have 4 chances to add starters in the first two rounds plus a 2nd first in 2006.
Also with Glenn and Key coming back along with Morgan, it is unlikely...especially with Parcells...that Williams is more than our #3 WR in 2005, so we 'd not be drafting a probable starter at #11 anyway.
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04-06-2005
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#15
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Nooooooooooooo way.
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