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Old 06-01-2004   #16
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With Key running slants and Witten playing a bigger role, Glenn starts because of his speed. We need to stretch the field opposite Johnson.
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Old 06-01-2004   #17
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Hermie aka LaTuna isn't going to like what you said about Terry
Ha ha.

Now I know why I had a "funny feeling" all day. Someone, somewhere was saying something painful, but unfortunately true. Might of known it was happening HERE.

AB, well he has a ways to go to prove to Tuna he is a better bet than Bill's favorite race horse, who I feel will benefit from Key's presence possibly as much Quincy will. In fact, I will go out on the long unsteady limb and predict a year so good for T, his name will be mentioned among the elite receivers again.

Tuna plays the best players, but Glenn alone of ALL his current and former players I've thought Parcells has an inflated opinion of. Just the stuff he's said, the way and tone he mentions him with in press conferences. (like asking the press after the first Jints game last year, " who do you think had a good game?", a rhetorical question evidently, because he jumped back in immedately with,"well I think Terry did". The "high-strung", "skittery" race horse references that sound as if Parcells thinks of Glenn as an expensive piece of horse flesh, the dewey-eyed look on Bill's face as he looked up at the replay board after that game ending run of Terry's in the first Skinz game last season, (it's the pic in my signature), the bolding of Terry's name at the top of his game card.... even T's tendency to lose concentration works to his advantage when it comes to Tuna, whereas with most anyone else it'd translate to a Gallowaste fast ticket to Palookaville.

Part of me has a probably unhealthy soap opera curiosity about seeing what would happen if Glenn and Johnson ever developed the kind of acrimony between them that existed between Key and Wayne Chrebet. Hopefully, for the team's sake no such "problem" ever develops (and is unlikely to as Glenn is shy, self-effacing, not prone to blowing his own horn), but still it would be intriguing to observe the favorite, ***-kissing sons slug it out.

All this "love" for Terry and Key puts AB at a bit of a disadvantage, imo. If and when we hear Tuna refer to AB as his "little honeybunch" as he did with TG in that NFL channel thing, we'll know Tuna's saddled a new "thoroughbred." But AB won't get the benefit of the doubt until he starts not just holding on, but showing he can be a difference maker. A play maker, not just another weapon.

I think it's clear Tuna considered Terry his ONLY potential game breaker last year. Now that Key has come in to do the grunt work, I suspect it's the receiver who makes BIG plays that will win the "starting" slot.

I'm putting my money (for now) on Terry, now Key's here to take the heat off. He's got the athleticism to make a few astonishing grabs each year, and that's the sugar keeps poor Bill on insulin. Keyshawn is now a Clydesdale. He needs to be teamed up with an Arabian. As of now, the closest thing to a stallion is Bill's lil filly. So it's highly possible that AB CAN impress. The added pounds, and hopefully strength he put on in off season might help turn the tide in his favor.

But imo AB will have to do something BIG to unseat Terry (not forgetting Tuna is still saying the concept of first, second and third receivers is not relevent, yeah right). Something BIG, like uhh, win a game or two in overtime with an amazingly acrobatic shoe string or high elevation, toes in bound end zone catches. Or just keep a few drives alive with a coupla WOW! type grabs. Theatrics, melodramatics, high light reel stuff. The offense NEEDS it, , the good Lord know Quincy does, and AB needs to chill and thrill, imo, not just show consistency with more pedestrian stuff. Smash mouth blocking, strong arming corners, faking out defenders with precision route running, whatever way he works it, it has to be something potentially game changing. Something that will make Tuna say "I just can't sit this freakin kid any longer".

Funny how just a few of those body twisting grabs a year have a way of turning a nag into a "thoroughbred".
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Ha ha.

Now I know why I had a "funny feeling" all day. Someone, somewhere was saying something painful, but unfortunately true. Might of known it was happening HERE.

AB, well he has a ways to go to prove to Tuna he is a better bet than Bill's favorite race horse, who I feel will benefit from Key's presence possibly as much Quincy will. In fact, I will go out on the long unsteady limb and predict a year so good for T, his name will be mentioned among the elite receivers again.

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Also has the ability to almost single handed win a few games. That 3 TD show he put on last year was amazing. I always remember the San Diego game he had in 2001 that may have saved that season for the Pats.............

With Key there he will be better able to stress defenses.
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No for several reasons the number of easy dropped passes he had last year

Glenn is more experienced and can I think handle being the second reciever alot better then Bryant can

Plus now that we have KJ and he can cover the middle and Glenn covering the slot, Bryant can be used alot more freely to run maybe some simpler routs to cut down on the number of dropped passes
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Also has the ability to almost single handed win a few games. That 3 TD show he put on last year was amazing. I always remember the San Diego game he had in 2001 that may have saved that season for the Pats.............

With Key there he will be better able to stress defenses.
Damn NORS, did you see them showing that one (Pats vs Flutie) on NFL channel replay last week? With the extremely raw Tom Brady?

Coming off his four game suspension, not having trained in camp, and so winded he was noticably out of breath by the end of the first quarter, but what was it, seven receptions, some of them, yup, amazing.

Bet if he had known what that would do for the Pats, he'd have caught that eight week long hamsting SOONER.

As for Detroit last year, well, two of them were on Otis "Toast" Smith, but the way he can lay himself out and missle himself for a ball in the endzone, uh uh, it's like the suspended animation in a magician's show. And I've yet to see any human tread air for as LONG as he seems to. He's been the "hummingbird" to me since OSU, but the team is in need of an eagle....oops another animal analogy. :p I'll try to keep the turkey and ducks out.
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The biggest thing that bothers me about glenn is he just is not tough . He never fights for the football , never will go up in traffic and fight for the damn ball like a freaking man . i mean come on , get some damn balls and go up for that damn ball in traffic and fight for it , out jump the guy out muscle the guy , make an effort like the great michael irvin did.

Glenn just sits there and waits for the ball to come to him , then it gets picked or knocked away. thats why i was overjoyed when we got ridof that sad excuse of wr joey galloway because he just was awful at this , and he was a bigtime puss.

Im extremly happy we got Key ....and I really think we should sign terrell.

Glenn To me needs to step up like a man
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Glenn just sits there and waits for the ball to come to him
Gee Mike, where have you BEEN?

Had you frequented the OLD board, you'd know Terry does NOT just "sit there and wait" for the ball.

He JUMPS, totally without rhyme or reason EVERY time the ball is thrown his way, needlessly, constantly, elevates to WAIT for the ball.

You see, he lacks the cajones to wait on the turf like a "real" man would. She has to wait in the troposphere where she won't get hit.

GOOD GRIEF!!.

And good night!
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haha your right he does jump for no reason sometimes .....
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I would like to see AB win the job, but I have a feeling (like most) that Glenn will hold on to the starting job for a while. AB will need to step up his play and become more consistent, and QUIT DROPPING passes.
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Another off season with the offense and in BP's system might just be the ticket for Bryant. This will be his 3rd year, the year WR's supposedly step up. Both Bryant and Glenn will see plenty of playing time so it won't matter who starts.

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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Terry should start at the beginning of the season. I hope that Bryant can wrest the job from him during the season and finally showcase his talents on a consistent basis. Bill is determined to get through to Antonio and mold him into a sucessful NFL wideout. There's at least that much in his favor.

If Antonio can play at the level he's shown glimpses of, then we will all be happy campers. If not, bye Antonio, was nice knowin ya.
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Old 06-01-2004   #27
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If the "Imposter" plays like last year not only will he be riding pine but he can hook up with Mr. Flowers and try to find a new team.
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Old 06-02-2004   #28
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I'm going to go way out on a limb here and say that the better player will start. :p

I believe that the hope is that Antonio Bryant will be the better player. He is younger and has more physical tools. But if he doesn't get the job done, then having Terry Glenn is a really nice option for Bill to have.
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I'm putting my money on KJ and TG. Antonio has potential, but he still hasn't proven to anyone he's better than the two mentioned. But since this is AB's 3rd year, he knows he running out of time so I expect him to have a solid season, even if its as a 3rd receiver.

I certainly hope he can break into the starting lineup before the end of the year.
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Keyshawn obviously has the physical tools to be the main reciever, in that he will be the surtest person to aim for when in need of a completion.

Glenn will stretch the field, but even though he showed last year that the "best hands in football" were somewhat over-rated, he still ended up as our leading receiver, and will do so again this year.

Bryant will get many opportunities to catch the ball, and hopefully we can go back to that three-wide set a lot more in 2004. He is a brilliant complement to Key and T, in that he posesses the best attributes of both men - speed, cunning, size. his only downfall is that he is sometimes ham-handed. If he can overcome that by the end of the season, he'll have a wonderful chance to contribute in a bog way.

(Even though her equine analogies gave me a headache), Herald's take on the situation affirms T's grip on the starting position. T may be an Arabian, and Key a Clydesale, but AB is an anxious young colt. As such, he will makes mistakes, but once he gets his legs under hims, watch out!!
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