If Poe is there and i do mean if? We have to get him!

[pupulehaole]

Originally Posted by Bigtommyb

While i do agree with getting a cb in round two or three possibly as the insurance for Mike Jenkins exiting or getting hurt. I feel now that we have Carr in the fold if Dontario Poe is there at 14 it would be a major draft day mistake if we don't get him! Draft is first wish then alternative!

Mock Draft

Poe-DT /Barron-SS
Blake- C/Curry- DE/OLB
Holsley- CB/Minnefield- CB
Polk- Wash. St- 3DRB/Brooks-CB
Butler- P- Georgia
Keyshawn Martin-Michigan St- WR/KR
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Go watch some tape of Poe then come back. No ****ing thanks.

[poost]

I remember a post a while back stating that the combine just makes scouts watch more tape if a prospects numbers are not what they expected. I'm a big fan of game film over combine numbers. Poe's number are very impressive, and should warrant another look at his game film from scouts. However, if the film is still bad, then you have to trust that the team will stay away from him.

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Same was said of Ngata in college.



I also like Cox, I've seen him play plenty. Poe just has far more upside as of right now, its just a matter of how much risk you can handle. A 345 pound man that can play both NT and DE is pretty rare and it shouldn't be ignored cause if he does meet his potential, he is a guy that would never be available in free agency.

Was it?

I don't remember if it was or it wasn't but I know he missed almost the entire 2003 season because of a torn ACL which also slowed him down the following year.

Even if it was a legit criticism, I still don't think the two compare considering Ngata played in a much better conference and still was way more productive despite the knee injury.

There are a lot of statistical yardsticks by which one can define Ngata's production at Oregon in three years. He posted 151 tackles, 24½ tackles for loss, 10 sacks, three forced fumbles and one recovery. But to gauge his athleticism, consider this staggering number: The guy blocked seven kicks -- three field goals, three extra-point attempts and a punt -- in his college career. That ties for the 10th-most career blocked kicks in NCAA history.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

Was it?

I don't remember if it was or it wasn't but I know he missed almost the entire 2003 season because of a torn ACL which also slowed him down the following year.

Even if it was a legit criticism, I still don't think the two compare considering Ngata played in a much better conference and still was way more productive despite the knee injury.

Well in Ngata's case it was more of a motor issue (at least some thought that), although really in college he would just wear down quick. He was just the type that would run out of gas late in a game, but some thought it was cause he lacked motor. Of course that wasn't true.

It has to be considered where Poe is coming from. They were 2-10, just a bad team in general where he got no help. In the right environment, he could be real special, but of course he could also be a bust.

[cowboy_ron]

Originally Posted by reddyuta

I think the Cowboys should do their homework on Poe,he should be an option at 14.

I'm sure they do a lot of homework

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Well in Ngata's case it was more of a motor issue (at least some thought that), although really in college he would just wear down quick. He was just the type that would run out of gas late in a game, but some thought it was cause he lacked motor. Of course that wasn't true.

It has to be considered where Poe is coming from. They were 2-10, just a bad team in general where he got no help. In the right environment, he could be real special, but of course he could also be a bust.

I'll agree he was on a horrid team but he also wasn't facing top notch talent.

It's all within the same scope. A guy with his size and ability should at least be able to standout on a consistent basis and for reasons other than because he's so much bigger than everyone else.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

I'll agree he was on a horrid team but he also wasn't facing top notch talent.

It's all within the same scope. A guy with his size and ability should at least be able to standout on a consistent basis and for reasons other than because he's so much bigger than everyone else.

Well sounds like you want to talk about this.....

I like Poe, main problem with him is two things to me. He lets his pads get too high and lets people get underneath him. This is something that can be taught at this level, and maybe he can change that issue.

The other one he can't change. His arms are so short he looks like a T-Rex, which makes it easier for people to get to his body. This is something he will just have to learn how to overcome, part of the reason he put up 44 reps was cause of those 32" arms.

Now he does have alot of strengths, was just pointing out the weaknesses. I love quick twitch athletes, and he is that, but his techique needs alot of work.