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Old 04-05-2012   #31
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NEVER use your 1st round pick PURELY on POTENTIAL. That's a franchise killer.

1st rounders needs to HAVE produced and has POTENTIAL as well.

Brocker to me is too risky. He played on a stacked DL at LSU. He hasn't produced. Sure he's young but I refuse to draft a kid just because he has potential. Hell, Poe may have even more potential. But I won't take him either.

Potential is a DIRTY word for HAVEN'T DONE JACK....but maybe...
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Old 04-06-2012   #32
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Just some notes:

* Different people have different notions of the NT body type. A lot of the original NTs were short. That's no longer true. Or, as Pat Kirwan says, the NT ideal is 6' 2" to 6' 4" and around 340-350 pounds.

* People aren't double teaming Brockers in the national championship game based on potential. They're double teaming him because they have to.

* People who get hung up on body types shouldn't be allowed to root for Tony Romo. He's too short and too slow to play quarterback. The same could be said for Drew Brees.

* Oh yea, and Jonathan Babineaux can't play defensive line, period. He's too light. You guys with the body type arguments have proven that he's unable to play defensive tackle.

* Dwight Freeney is too short to play defensive end. DEs have to be 6' 6" tall, don't they? How tall is Dwight? I think he's recorded as being 6' 1" on nfl.com.

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Old 04-06-2012   #33
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Brockers is Red Bryant.
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Old 04-06-2012   #34
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No
the 3-4 NT is all about mucking it up and attitude and taking on blockers and holding up with double teams

not sure that is brockers
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Old 04-06-2012   #35
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the 3-4 NT is all about mucking it up and attitude and taking on blockers and holding up with double teams

not sure that is brockers
He holds up to double teams very well. It is his best skill at this point.
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Old 04-06-2012   #36
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6-5 and huge
That's my point. You can be 6-5 and play NT. Leverage helps you hold the point of attack, but it is a by product of strength. If Brokers is strong enough to hold the point, it should not matter that he is 6-5 or 6-6.

At this point, Brokers greatest asset is his ability to hold the point and take on double teams without getting pushed back.

As Ratliff has shown, NT come in all shapes and sizes.
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Old 04-06-2012   #37
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NT---NO Way...too tall and too talented...easy to get double-teamed.

DE---I prefer Cox or Coples because of the pass rush and upfield capabilities right now, but I still believe that at age 20, Brockers would immediately be the best DE on our current team...and he could potentially be unblockable 1-1 in 2-3 years.


Of course, potential can make you or break you...when looking at Brockers on film, you have to keep reminding yourself that you're looking at a 19-20 year old starting in big-time college. He certainly is not a finished product.
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That's my point. You can be 6-5 and play NT. Leverage helps you hold the point of attack, but it is a by product of strength. If Brokers is strong enough to hold the point, it should not matter that he is 6-5 or 6-6.

At this point, Brokers greatest asset is his ability to hold the point and take on double teams without getting pushed back.

As Ratliff has shown, NT come in all shapes and sizes.
Raw strength is something you just can't teach or train...as we saw early on with Bob Lilly. The size of biceps or quads, doesn't dictate immovable force and ability to disrupt in football. That is an applied talent that is raw in origin.

Dominance is born in that raw ability...only effectiveness improves with technique work.
There's no right way to do the wrong thing.

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[size="4"]NT---NO Way...too tall and too talented...easy to get double-teamed.
Again, how tall was Ted Washington?
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