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Old 04-21-2012   #1
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Dallas has strong interest in this guy? Scouts dont like him that much.

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3. ORSON CHARLES Georgia 6-2½ 250 4.82 3
Hurt himself March 9 with an arrest for drunken driving. Also had a terrible pro day. "Good the way he played," one scout said. "Not the way he tested." Several teams think he will have major problems grasping an NFL offense. "There are a lot of concerns about his character," another scout said. "He was supposed to be this game-breaking receiving tight end who could also block but he ran almost a 4.9. Teams went, 'Whoa, whoa, whoa.' Good college football player but he's not special." Third-year junior from Tampa, Fla. Finished with 94 catches for 1,370 yards (14.6) and 10 TDs. "Is he like Vernon Davis? Absolutely not in terms of running, but he's a good blocker," a third scout said. "On the line he's just not real big. He's as good a blocker as any of them except for (UCLA's Mike) Harkey."
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7. ADRIEN ROBINSON Cincinnati 6-4 264 4.57 5-6
Hidden in an offense that seldom used a TE and had just 29 catches for 434 yards (15.0) and five TDs in four seasons. It all changed after his boffo workout March 2. "Our guys said he is the surprise of the draft," one scout said. "I didn't even know about him. When I put the tape on he made a catch against Tennessee the first game that looked like Jermichael Finley. Then he got better and better and better. He's not a blocker. But the upside. . . in the fifth round, somewhere in there, you're going to get you a guy to develop." Has medical concerns for some teams. "A good day at pro day is all it takes to get some attention," said Reiprish. "Whether that means people are going to jump up there and draft him high I don't know."
OTOH this guy sounds intriguing.
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Dallas has strong interest in this guy? Scouts dont like him that much.
Still think he is a late 2, early 3. The success of Aaron Hernandez will help him greatly.
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The position Dallas' draft team scares me the most at is TE. It just seems their intrigue and excitement outweighs practical contribution. To see us spend a 2nd round pick TWICE while Witten is still young seems like overkill to me. Neither of those guys was viewed as exceptional value at the spots we picked them. Okay, but not exceptional. Then neither really lived up their draft status over time.

So I take no comfort in b/u TE being a possible position of need in this draft.
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On the flip side, he's on Scouts Inc.'s top 5 list of potential day 2 steals.


Georgia TE Orson Charles
Charles' lack of height (6-2½ , 251) is a knock against him, and he did not post a great 40 time (mid-4.7 range) during the pre-draft process. He was also arrested and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol in early March, so Charles' stock has dropped into the third-round range.

There's not much difference, though, between Charles and Dwayne Allen, who ranks just ahead of him on the tight end board. Allen is a bit bigger (6-31, 255) and a little more agile, but I still think Charles can be a consistent performer in the NFL.

He gets off the line quickly, accelerates down the field and plays faster than his 40 time indicates. He also has solid hands and body control as a receiver. And while his lack of size means he can't always sustain as a blocker, Charles does give good effort in that area.

It also seems like Charles' arrest is an isolated incident. He shows very good football character, was a team captain and worked hard in the classroom and on the field during his time at Georgia. He will pay for making a bad decision, but a team such as the Bears, Bills, Oakland Raiders or Indianapolis Colts could fill a need and get plenty of value by taking Charles in the third round.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog/...l-day-2-steals

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Gimme Dwayne Allen over him if we're taking a TE in the 3rd.
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