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04-23-2012
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#16
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Hightower now at 15 too. wow....looking at this look like draft board earthquake.
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04-23-2012
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#17
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Newo
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Gilmore at 8? No freaking way. He is so overrated it isn't even funny.
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04-23-2012
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#18
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDogo
Unpopular opinion but DeCastro is a interior lineman, 24 is right about where he should be. Mayock has him as the top interior lineman and rightfully so but love it or hate it, they don't carry a whole lot of value. It says nothing of him as a player, it's just the way it is. I believe he only had Pouncey and spot or two higher at the time.
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This is a top 100 prospects list, not a top 100 value list. DeCastro may not be as valuable as others based on his position but he is MUCH better than the 24th best player in this draft.
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04-23-2012
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#19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCount
Jon Jones has made Chandler Jones more and more desirable, but Chandler is a legit prospect. 9 overall? I dunno.
What's the over/under on how many times Jon Jones is mentioned during the draft though?
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Agree with this 100%.
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04-23-2012
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#20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhast
Gilmore at 8? No freaking way. He is so overrated it isn't even funny.
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I'm waiting to see how Goose ranks him. Anyone know when Goose's board is coming out?
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04-23-2012
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#21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marchetta
I'm waiting to see how Goose ranks him. Anyone know when Goose's board is coming out?
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I thought I read he isn't releasing one this year.
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04-23-2012
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#22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marchetta
I'm waiting to see how Goose ranks him. Anyone know when Goose's board is coming out?
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Goose's board is more based on what he hears.
I thought Mayock's board is based more on his own studying film. I definitely trust Mayock's view of players than McShay and Kiper's regurgitation of what they hear.
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04-23-2012
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#23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDogo
Unpopular opinion but DeCastro is a interior lineman, 24 is right about where he should be. Mayock has him as the top interior lineman and rightfully so but love it or hate it, they don't carry a whole lot of value. It says nothing of him as a player, it's just the way it is. I believe he only had Pouncey and spot or two higher at the time.
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When ranking a prospect, I don't think you ding him for his position.
Undoubtedly a fair number of players #1 - #23 will have worse careers than DeCastro. I'd say at least one or two fail to play their entire rookie contract.
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04-23-2012
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#24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedkilz88
He didn't keep Poe down very long. Right back up where he should be.
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04-23-2012
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#25
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Blogging the Boys put up a story on Saturday where the author, Tom Ryle, averaged 6 different big boards and mock drafts to show how they differentiated.
David DeCastro was the 7th best talent averaging the big boards while lasting to the 14th overall selection doing the same with the mocks.
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04-23-2012
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
When ranking a prospect, I don't think you ding him for his position.
Undoubtedly a fair number of players #1 - #23 will have worse careers than DeCastro. I'd say at least one or two fail to play their entire rookie contract.
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Couldn't agree more with this.
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04-23-2012
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#27
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a_minimalist
I thought I read he isn't releasing one this year.
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I've read it a couple of times on this and other boards.
If true, DMN has lost it's mind.
Their draft content requires a subscription, so I don't know if Goose is part of it this year, but I did see he had some draft related chats up for reading.
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04-23-2012
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#28
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Surrealist
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Makes no sense. The guy only does one thing well in life. And he just stopped doing it.
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04-23-2012
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#29
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I really like Jones. I think the guy has pro bowl potential and just needs coaching. He's huge, strong, fast, hustles and has amazing bloodlines (not just athletic attributes, but clearly both his brothers are hard workers to succeed how they have).
I don't really like a lot of the DT/DE prospects in this draft. Jones and Thompson are probably my favourite. Both would make an immediate impact at such a weak spot on the team.
I would love it if we could get Jones in rd. 1
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04-23-2012
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#30
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPhil
No DeCastro? Odd....
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24th".....
At least it's clear that Mayock truly is grading them as he sees them and not being influenced by the masses. I love it!
Not sue I agree with it, but he has set himself apart here enough we can look back and compare fairly easily.
Good for him
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