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04-23-2012
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#31
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Wow he has Mark Barron ranked #7... If he falls to Dallas at 14 they will snag him.
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04-23-2012
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#32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhast
Gilmore at 8? No freaking way. He is so overrated it isn't even funny.
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Cosell has him going third in his film-based mock.
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04-23-2012
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#33
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Doug Martin at 17. He could be excellent, but 17....wow
I see he's lovin Barron and Gilmore, which is no surprise. That should make some with worries on Barron breath easier as that is Mayocks wheelhouse.
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04-23-2012
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#34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhast
Gilmore at 8? No freaking way. He is so overrated it isn't even funny.
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What's not to like about him?
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04-23-2012
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#35
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The Boognish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhast
Gilmore at 8? No freaking way. He is so overrated it isn't even funny.
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I said the same thing when he ranked Brandon Flowers like that a couple of years ago. I won't doubt Mayock again on DB's.
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04-23-2012
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#36
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Mayock's the best in the biz (on TV anyhow) and trust his judgement. The Jones thing shocks me a bit, but DeCastro doesn't. You don't take guards in the upper half of the first round....if he was that special he would be a tackle.
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04-24-2012
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#37
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Newo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJT13
Cosell has him going third in his film-based mock.
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Yea i saw that. He has griffin going over luck and janoris Jenkins going 5th overall before claiborne. Lol
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04-24-2012
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#38
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Newo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DFWJC
What's not to like about him?
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I watch a ton of sec football. He just doesnt dominate wrs like a top 8 player should. He could be a decent pro cb but i don't like his game. 2nd rnd, sure. First round? No way.
Scar plays a ton or zone coverage, he has very little man coverage skills and most scouts refer to his skills as "raw". Footwork is average and he gets caught flat footed when he is in off coverage. As a sophomore he had a knock on him of getting best deep bc he loses wrs in zone. He got better as a junior but had it happen too often stil. He was a mid 2nd rnd pick until he ran a 4.37 at the combine and somehow slowly rose to the top 15. He is great against the run but really has a lot of learning to do if he is going to live up to his draft pick. He is your typical pretty good player that will get way over drafted thanks to great measureables.
Last edited by Muhast : 04-24-2012 at 02:03 AM.
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04-24-2012
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#39
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No Janoris Jenkins in top 50?
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04-24-2012
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#40
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I actually agree with much of Mayock's list
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04-24-2012
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#41
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I thought this was ranking the players by talent. If that is so then Mayock is a total moron on several of them; Decastro just about the most obvious.
And there are a lot of stupid people in the NFL that do not think interior O line is all that important. Look at us last season.
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04-24-2012
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#42
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Coming out of hs Gilmore came down to Bama and South Carolina. Saban had him rated one of his top 2 cb prospects in the nation based on his own personal evaluation and the George Young player/position profile. Saban wanted him bad and recruited him very very hard.
He is a very talented player. It doesn't surprise me at all that he's rated that high based on his ability.
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04-24-2012
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhast
I watch a ton of sec football. He just doesnt dominate wrs like a top 8 player should. He could be a decent pro cb but i don't like his game. 2nd rnd, sure. First round? No way.
Scar plays a ton or zone coverage, he has very little man coverage skills and most scouts refer to his skills as "raw". Footwork is average and he gets caught flat footed when he is in off coverage. As a sophomore he had a knock on him of getting best deep bc he loses wrs in zone. He got better as a junior but had it happen too often stil. He was a mid 2nd rnd pick until he ran a 4.37 at the combine and somehow slowly rose to the top 15. He is great against the run but really has a lot of learning to do if he is going to live up to his draft pick. He is your typical pretty good player that will get way over drafted thanks to great measureables.
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I certainly don't have my own personal opinion on either guy. But, I did hear (I believe on nfl.com), that some teams actually have Gilmore ranked higher than Claiborne on their board. And don't be surprised if Gilmore isn't the #1 CB taken in the draft instead of Claiborne.
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04-24-2012
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#44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDogo
Unpopular opinion but DeCastro is a interior lineman, 24 is right about where he should be. Mayock has him as the top interior lineman and rightfully so but love it or hate it, they don't carry a whole lot of value. It says nothing of him as a player, it's just the way it is. I believe he only had Pouncey and spot or two higher at the time.
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Where did he have Iupati, because I think DeCastro coming in is a better prospect than Iupati.
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04-24-2012
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#45
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Just going by our draft pick numbers and going with players right around our spot...
1- McClellin - OLB
2- Robinson - CB
3. Blake - C
Not exactly what I want, but it would make a pretty decent class.
No one surprised by where he has Coby Fleenor?
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