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04-26-2012
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#31
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Originally Posted by SDogo
Oline or Dline
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Sdogo, do you think possibility that we can move back up into 2nd rd by giving up our 2nd in 2013 and our 4th this year. Then, after training camp and preseason or during early part of season trade jenkins for a # 2 Pick? Recoup that number 2 in 2013 back.
What I am worried about, you said the cowboys were interested in moving back into 2nd rd, and 2 other guys did to best I remember.
What do we have to trade back up into the 2nd rd.
Granted I would love to trade back up into 2nd rd and get Cordy Glenn OG.
I am not fond of Konz though who is weak with bench press and has that blood clot issue.
I would rather go get impact monster OG like Glenn. WE have to hit on this 2nd rounder if we trade back, cant be another M Bennett.
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04-26-2012
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#32
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Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ever was.
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Originally Posted by cowboyjoe
Sdogo, do you think possibility that we can move back up into 2nd rd by giving up our 2nd in 2013 and our 4th this year. Then, after training camp and preseason or during early part of season trade jenkins for a # 2 Pick? Recoup that number 2 in 2013 back.
What I am worried about, you said the cowboys were interested in moving back into 2nd rd, and 2 other guys did to best I remember.
What do we have to trade back up into the 2nd rd.
Granted I would love to trade back up into 2nd rd and get Cordy Glenn OG.
I am not fond of Konz though who is weak with bench press and has that blood clot issue.
I would rather go get impact monster OG like Glenn. WE have to hit on this 2nd rounder if we trade back, cant be another M Bennett.
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I dont get why anyone thinks Jenkins is worth more then a 5th at most. Samuel just got traded for a 7th. We have been over this before. Rarely do players carry that much value. Draft picks are simply worth more.
In all honestly, I doubt getting back in the 2nd is a reality with out giving up more then anyone here wants to deal with.
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It takes a genius to whine appealingly.
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04-26-2012
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#33
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Originally Posted by SDogo
I dont get why anyone thinks Jenkins is worth more then a 5th at most. Samuel just got traded for a 7th. We have been over this before. Rarely do players carry that much value. Draft picks are simply worth more.
In all honestly, I doubt getting back in the 2nd is a reality with out giving up more then anyone here wants to deal with.
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Not during the draft I agree, you just cant trade players. I am thinking this though Sdogo. Jenkins will be here first because he is injured till training camp at least. But with NFL now spreading teams out with 3-4 wr sets, this could work to our advantage in preseason and at start of year. WE would have 3 very good CBS, Carr, Claiborne and Jenkins, with Scandrick as the 4th cb in the slot. That would give our defense possibly time to get to QB.
Coverage sacks, in that regard, Jenkins might be some big time interceptions and improve his value by end of preseason or by the 4th to 7th game of the season and then you could trade Jenkins possibly for a 2nd rounder.
Get what I am pointing at now. I was thinking maybe we could trade back up into 2nd rd with rams for our 2nd rder, giving up a future number 2 and our 4th this year.
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04-26-2012
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#34
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No way I trade a pick next year unless it's a 5th or lower.
We are not 8 players away from contending.
We get Blake in the 3rd and our OL is solid. We keep Jenkins, he knows he's out of town so he is playing full speed for a big contract.
Our two worst positions from last year just got 10 times better. We missed the playoffs by 1 game with a crappy Oline, terrible secondary and a ton of injuries.
If two of those are fixed (please oh please no injuries), like I think they are, we make the playoffs.
We are not a terrible football team. We need some players, but we have talent.
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04-26-2012
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#35
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Originally Posted by SDogo
I think we should stay out and let it come to us. I strongly oppose using future picks in trades. Even our 3rd #81 & 4th #113 might not be enough to get up into 2.
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C'mon, next year's 1st to the Rams for #39, #45, #96. 
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04-26-2012
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#36
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Business is a Boomin
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Originally Posted by DBOY3141
No way I trade a pick next year unless it's a 5th or lower.
We are not 8 players away from contending.
We get Blake in the 3rd and our OL is solid. We keep Jenkins, he knows he's out of town so he is playing full speed for a big contract.
Our two worst positions from last year just got 10 times better. We missed the playoffs by 1 game with a crappy Oline, terrible secondary and a ton of injuries.
If two of those are fixed (please oh please no injuries), like I think they are, we make the playoffs.
We are not a terrible football team. We need some players, but we have talent.
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Can we draft a coach?
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04-26-2012
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#37
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Originally Posted by SDogo
They are not numbered in order...that number is their ranking
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Yes, but nonetheless 49 picks down from the player listed as #20 is 69 and not #81, as you have it.
If tomorrow's picks go exactly to your board then Dallas will be picking the player listed at #69 and not #81.
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04-27-2012
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#38
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The Actualist
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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy
Hard to believe we don't make another deal tomorrow.
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Upshaw baby!
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04-27-2012
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#39
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Semi-Official Loose Cannon
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Originally Posted by Aikbach
Did Phillip Blake already get drafted? I saw konz on your list and assumed Blake would go after that.
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Blake is rated outside of SDogo's top 100...
Smarter than the av-er-age bear...
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04-27-2012
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#40
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Originally Posted by vaquerosdedallas
49 picks down from Cordy Glenn at #20 is #69.
Not #81 as you have it.
That means that if Amini Silatolu were to slide just a little bit we might be able to trade up to get him.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDogo
They are not numbered in order...that number is their ranking
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Originally Posted by vaquerosdedallas
Yes, but nonetheless 49 picks down from the player listed as #20 is 69 and not #81, as you have it.
If tomorrow's picks go exactly to your board then Dallas will be picking the
player listed at #69 and not #81.
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You'd think someone so determined to be right would have a higher post count by now.  We appreciate your info, SDogo.
"We need to stop talking about the playoffs and Super Bowls and just become a better football team." - Jason Witten
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04-27-2012
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#41
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Originally Posted by Pottsville Maroons
You'd think someone so determined to be right would have a higher post count by now.  We appreciate your info, SDogo.
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I now see that I was wrong and I apologize to SDog.
Sorry!
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04-27-2012
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#42
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Stay at 81. Pick best pass rusher available. Grab the starting C in the 4 w/ either Blake or Saulsberry.
Don't get greedy and trade future picks.
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04-27-2012
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#43
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it was the grave marked unknown right beside
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Hoping for Peter Konz and Derek Wolfe. 
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04-27-2012
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#44
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Really good stuff, thanks Sdogo.
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04-27-2012
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#45
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What are the chances of Crick falling to us if no trade is made?
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