And now, for a post-1st round Cowboys mock...

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by TheCount

Really depends on who's there. I don't see a safety worth taking in this draft at this point, who is going to really be better than what we have? I think we can look forward to another temp solution at SS with Pool.

I agree, the value has to be there. I'm not sure what our board looks like.
I'm worried about center too and assume that Blake won't be there in the mid 4th, but then again, he could be.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Yeah, well I'm more in the middle on this one. We did make some upgrades on the oline also, even though most don't respect them, they might fit better with what Bill wants to do.

You did pick a NT, which is nice although I still don't think TRat should really play DE cause he doesn't match up as well against tackles as he does in the middle.

There are 2 starters that we still need to make an effort to get, a center and a DE. Both are still possible for us to get in this draft and if we need to move up to get one or both, I'm in total favor of it.

I just don't know if we should let needs at basically backup WR and TE get in the way of 2 guys that could actually start for this team at DE and C.......even if it costs a chance at Broyles. Giving up our 2nd pick lost us that luxury of both a TE and WR that early.

I like it. If one of the top 4 or 5 guards fell into the third I would be thrilled with that and blake. I like Broyles but still dont view our OL as fixed.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by TheCount

Really depends on who's there. I don't see a safety worth taking in this draft at this point, who is going to really be better than what we have? I think we can look forward to another temp solution at SS with Pool.

Yeah I see DE and C (well interior OL) ahead of TE and WR right now.

I believe TE should be higher than WR cause good TEs are just harder to find. We can get a WR off the scrap heap like we did Robinson after cuts if need be, but TEs who can block and catch the occasional pass is much harder to find.

[Sam I Am]

Sorry sb, but the Cowboys are going to trade back up into the second round. That's how baseball Jerry go.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by Tex

I like it. If one of the top 4 or 5 guards fell into the third I would be thrilled with that and blake. I like Broyles but still dont view our OL as fixed.

True, depends on the guy there really, if Brooks is there I would probably pull the trigger, but we also need some youth on the DL.

[CCBoy]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

True, depends on the guy there really, if Brooks is there I would probably pull the trigger, but we also need some youth on the DL.

Agreed, and both an ILB and OLB.

[Sitting Bull]

I like this mock and don't understand how drafting a WR is a luxury. Austin and Bryant have hardly ever been healthy on the field together in the past two seasons. Behind them we have group of unproven lottery tickets. Jerry doesn't like to sign free agent "progress-stopper" WR3s, and the odds of finding a street FA with the speed we covet is slim. I'm skeptical we'll break type and draft small. I get the feeling Jerry only drafts WRs he thinks have the potential, however small, to become WR1's. I like Brian Quick most for us, despite the fact that he isn't blazing fast (or quick), just productive.

[Idgit]

I'd love this. And it would put an end to people being upset about a lack of attention to the trenches.

There's a lot of draft left ahead of us, that's for sure.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by Sitting Bull

I like this mock and don't understand how drafting a WR is a luxury. Austin and Bryant have hardly ever been healthy on the field together in the past two seasons. Behind them we have group of unproven lottery tickets. Jerry doesn't like to sign free agent "progress-stopper" WR3s, and the odds of finding a street FA with the speed we covet is slim. I'm skeptical we'll break type and draft small. I get the feeling Jerry only drafts WRs he thinks have the potential, however small, to become WR1's. I like Brian Quick most for us, despite the fact that he isn't blazing fast (or quick), just productive.

Well Robinson could've been considered a progress stopper last year.

It becomes a luxury only because we don't have a 2nd round pick anymore, and still have needs that a rookie could come in and start with alot more snaps.

A later pick of a WR would be good with someone who fell, or we could always sign our old friends Roy Williams or Crayton off the street if we want.....

[Sitting Bull]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Well Robinson could've been considered a progress stopper last year.

It becomes a luxury only because we don't have a 2nd round pick anymore, and still have needs that a rookie could come in and start with alot more snaps.

A later pick of a WR would be good with someone who fell, or we could always sign our old friends Roy Williams or Crayton off the street if we want.....

Robinson was not signed to be a WR3. If he was, we wouldn't have cut him and re-signed him (twice) in a roster bubble dance with Fiametta. Robinson was a winning lotto ticket and OTree was a bust.

I don't care what round we pick to address WR, but we need more options (including street FA) if we want the best odds of a WR3 emerging.

I do agree C and DE are important needs. I just don't want to pass on a Rd 3 BPA who happens to be WR just because we have those additional needs.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by Sitting Bull

Robinson was not signed to be a WR3. If he was, we wouldn't have cut him and re-signed him (twice) in a roster bubble dance with Fiametta. Robinson was a winning lotto ticket and OTree was a bust.

I don't care what round we pick to address WR, but we need more options (including street FA) if we want the best odds of a WR3 emerging.

Well we will roster churn regardless, watch the cuts (like we did with Robinson) and such so even if we don't pick another WR, they are easier to find than some other positions of need.

Robinson was signed as a WR3 though, don't think anyone would consider him over Miles or Dez.

[dez_for_prez]

Would love to have Hanna, TE from Oklahomma in the 5th. I think he will turn to a stud.

[fifaguy]

Originally Posted by silverbear

You knew somebody had to do it... LOL...

With Claiborne on board, and no 2nd round pick, I'm not projecting them to make some move that gets them back into the 2nd round... I'd love to be wrong, though... so we start with the third round:

3) Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma... 5-10, 195 pounds, 4.45 second 40... the NCAA's all-time receptions leader (349 catches) is the slot receiver of Jason Garrett's dreams...

4a) Philip Blake, C, Baylor... 6-2, 316 pounds, 5.2 second 40... it looks like Blake is the Cowboys' second choice at center, behind Peter Konz (who will be gone before they pick in the 3rd round)...

4b) Hebron Fangupo, NT, BYU... 6-1, 325 pounds, 5.15 second 40... this stumpy widebody is climbing the draft charts recently... after two picks for the offense, it's time to get back to improving the defense, which has more problems...

[View Full Quote]5) Taylor Thompson, TE, SMU... 6-6, 260 pounds, 4.55 second 40... Thompson is one of the more fascinating prospects in this draft to me, he played TE in high school, but was converted to DE in college... then while getting ready for the offseason workouts, he threw scouts and observers for a loop by dropping 15-20 pounds and trying to make the move back to TE... as a converted DE, he has the physicality (and the size) to make a nice blocking TE, and he apparently caught the ball really well in offseason workouts... he has the straight line speed to stretch a defense... I like Rhett Ellison and James Hanna as late round TEs too, but Thompson intrigues me... the Boys have a need for help at TE since Martellus Bennett went to New York, I'd certainly advocate grabbing either Thompson, Ellison or Hanna late...

6) Brandon Hardin, S/CB, Oregon State... 6-3, 216 pounds, 4.45 second 40... a big corner in college who projects to safety in the NFL... even after drafting Claiborne, the Boys are not quite set at DB, they could still use some help at safety... alternatively, the Boys might want to draft a linebacker here, perhaps Miles Burris, Emmanuel Acho or Jerry Franklin; they really haven't addressed linebacker at all in this draft... back to Hardin, he was a special teams stud at Oregon State and could help the team there while trying to earn playing time on defense...

7) Donald Stephenson, OT/OG/C, Oklahoma... 6-6, 316 pounds, 4.95 second 40... a bit of a surprise pick here, the Cowboys at this point have Doug Free, Tyron Smith and Jermey Parnell (resigned for 3 years today) at tackle, and nothing else... it seems to me that some quality depth is badly needed at tackle... FWIW, I like Jeff Adams from Columbia a lot as a tackle in the late rounds too, but Stephenson gets the nod because of his ability to fill in at literally any position on the offensive line...

Works for me...

Would really like a DE in there. Not satisfied with the dline yet.

[Ren]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

A later pick of a WR would be good with someone who fell, or we could always sign our old friends Roy Williams or Crayton off the street if we want.....

People joke about it a lot but i honestly would not mind bringing Crayton back as a stopgap #3