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04-27-2012
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A Plastic Container
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NFL.com: Losers for now, but time will tell
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Dallas Cowboys give up second-rounder to move up for CB Morris Claiborne: In few cases does giving away a top-50 pick to move up in the first round result in a winning situation. In fact, here are some of the players in recent memory whom teams traded into the sixth overall pick to acquire: DT Ryan Sims (Kansas City, 2002), DT Johnathan Sullivan (New Orleans, 2003), TE Kellen Winslow II (Tampa Bay, 2004). And of course, Atlanta took WR Julio Jones sixth after a bold, draft-day trade last year. If Claiborne turns out to be a Pro Bowler, then I'll be proven wrong. But staying at No. 14 could have netted Dallas another talented cornerback in Dre Kirkpatrick, while still keeping the second-round pick that could've become another down-the-line starter at receiver or defensive end.
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...module=HP11_cp
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04-27-2012
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Spider 2 Y-Banana
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04-27-2012
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A Plastic Container
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Originally Posted by casmith07
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Yeah I don't know how we're a loser for getting more value.
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04-27-2012
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Senior Member
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I think that's fair analysis.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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04-27-2012
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Diamond surrounded by trash
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I think that's fair analysis.
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Of course you do.
victory is ours
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04-27-2012
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#6
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Senior Member
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well........
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Originally Posted by tupperware
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....this is WHY I started the thread yesterday and posed the question to all the SEC fans (which I am NOT) and the answer was unanimous: claiborne is MUCH better than Dre and their isn't a comparison. I'm fine with that. I still think we needed to grab Cox but after reflecting on things: maybe #6 was just too high to take him. Hey, I asked and some VERY knowledgeable and respected posters answered: Mo is the man. Hoping they're right. 
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04-27-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newlander
....this is WHY I started the thread yesterday and posed the question to all the SEC fans (which I am NOT) and the answer was unanimous: claiborne is MUCH better than Dre and their isn't a comparison. I'm fine with that. I still think we needed to grab Cox but after reflecting on things: maybe #6 was just too high to take him. Hey, I asked and some VERY knowledgeable and respected posters answered: Mo is the man. Hoping they're right. 
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Give me a break, dude. You asked a Cowboys board about a just made Cowboys draft pick. If you want a better idea of the player you have to get out of this world and ask people who have no horse in the race.
I'm not going to a Giants board and asking about David Wilson. Because I already know what the majority will tell me.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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04-27-2012
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Senior Member
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I don't have a problem with that reasoning. I just wish he could have gone thru a list of all of the recent move ups and see how they worked out instead of naming a few of the bad ones.
YR
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04-27-2012
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With the rookie wage scale, the old value chart for draft picks goes out the window. A lot of these "analysts" need to re-analyze their metrics.
Lee/Carter...the new dynamic duo
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04-27-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I think that's fair analysis.
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Claiborne >>>>>>>>> Kirpatrick
Don
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04-27-2012
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#11
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How can we be "losers for now" after only one round? What if we get back into 2?
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04-27-2012
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#12
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Senior Member
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Claiborne is better than Kirpatrick.
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04-27-2012
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Old bulletproof tiger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I think that's fair analysis.
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Of course you do. Nobody here would think you would think otherwise.
NEWSFLASH: Risen Star has some support.
I've got a prayer on my desk. It says, "Dear Lord, I pray that my place will never be with the cold, timid souls who do not compete yet criticize, for they never know or feel success or failure."
~ BoB Stoops
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04-27-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sitting Bull
How can we be "losers for now" after only one round? What if we get back into 2?
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Because for now, after 1 round, he thinks the Cowboys are losers.
You'd understand it perfectly if he said the Cowboys were winners for now.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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04-27-2012
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Senior Member
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And if we would of followed this reasoning......today it would be said.....
Dallas reached on a CB Dre Kirkpatrick who has off field issues....
John 16:22 And ye therefore now have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no one taketh away from you.
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