Vinny to be the starter???? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Cajuncowboy · 06-02-2004

Here is a link to the story where they claim that if he comes to Dallas they will let him compete with QC to be the starter. THat's ok by me but we can do better than a 41 year old QB. KURT, KURT, KURT!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...p-171813c.html

**jobberone** · 06-02-2004

As well as everyone else. I'm ambivalent about even signing Vinny much less even think of him as the starter. I'm not sure he's even a capable backup anymore although I could easily be wrong here. Tricky problem here.

RCowboyFan · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by cajuncowboy

Here is a link to the story where they claim that if he comes to Dallas they will let him compete with QC to be the starter. THat's ok by me but we can do better than a 41 year old QB. KURT, KURT, KURT!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...p-171813c.html

KURT what? Sorry, I don't get this fascination with with 33 year old has been QB.

Not to mention the loud mouth wife of his. The dude just lost it, and I dont think it is because of injuries. He might regain the form he showed, but I dont like those chances. Especially if he might do well in TC, and then only to blow up in games. Obviously thats what happened in St. Lious when he last started.

I rather take the 41 year old QB, who can still do it, if not for full season, at least in part time.

aikemirv · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by RCowboyFan

KURT what? Sorry, I don't get this fascination with with 33 year old has been QB.

Not to mention the loud mouth wife of his. The dude just lost it, and I dont think it is because of injuries. He might regain the form he showed, but I dont like those chances. Especially if he might do well in TC, and then only to blow up in games. Obviously thats what happened in St. Lious when he last started.

I rather take the 41 year old QB, who can still do it, if not for full season, at least in part time.

And what was the Jets record with Vinny last year. He looked awful, was terrible at times. No thanks for me. I would rather give QC another year than have Vinny start.

If we sign Vinny I can only believe that it is as a #2 guy as insurance if QC does not pan out mid season and Henson is not ready. If that is not the case then BP thinks that QC is a lost cause already and I really don't think BP thinks that.

Cajuncowboy · 06-02-2004

I just can't wait for the day when Warner, if he signs elsewhere and he regains his form to see how many folks here will admit they were wrong. And if he doesn't regain his form I know I will admit.

Chuck 54 · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by cajuncowboy

Here is a link to the story where they claim that if he comes to Dallas they will let him compete with QC to be the starter. THat's ok by me but we can do better than a 41 year old QB. KURT, KURT, KURT!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...p-171813c.html

never happen...BP might be a control freak who is in love with his own guys and loves to see his ego rise when he wins with mediocre players, but Testeverde cannot be a starting NFL QB...period.

Doomsday101 · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by aikemirv

And what was the Jets record with Vinny last year. He looked awful, was terrible at times. No thanks for me. I would rather give QC another year than have Vinny start.

If we sign Vinny I can only believe that it is as a #2 guy as insurance if QC does not pan out mid season and Henson is not ready. If that is not the case then BP thinks that QC is a lost cause already and I really don't think BP thinks that.

Again all Vinny has said is he wants to go to a team that he is given the chance to compete for the job. If Carter is all that then beating out Vinny should be easy. I have a feeling Vinny can do a lot more with our offense than Carter has shown but I'll be more than satisfied as long as we have open competition for the starter’s job.

Reef Engineer · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by cajuncowboy

I just can't wait for the day when Warner, if he signs elsewhere and he regains his form to see how many folks here will admit they were wrong. And if he doesn't regain his form I know I will admit.

I'd take Warner over Vinny any day of the week if a starter is who we're looking for. People complain about his wife - get real. Games are won on the field, not the stands. If she wants to ***** and moan the entire time he's here and we're winning, who cares?

Having said that, I'd prefer NOT to sign either of them and let the guys we have battle it out. We need to see what we have and renting a guy for a year or two doesn't make sense to me ... although it might be a year or two until the annointed one is ready.

Hollywood Henderson · 06-02-2004

Your right Dooms, Vinny at 41 or 47 is twice the QB the awful passer carter is...
Parcells knows, he needs a passer to win...

crazylegs · 06-02-2004

Any warm body can replace QC.

The sooner the better.

Let the QC BS just die!

Daren · 06-02-2004

If that happens it will be BS.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 06-02-2004

Sad to say...but I believe that even if Vinny is brought in...and he looks 50 times better then QC in TC....that QC will still be handed the Starting Job and Vinny set up as backup.

Now down the road during the season things could change.

zack · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by cajuncowboy

Here is a link to the story where they claim that if he comes to Dallas they will let him compete with QC to be the starter. THat's ok by me but we can do better than a 41 year old QB. KURT, KURT, KURT!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...p-171813c.html

Come on! Did you see him play last year? He is nothing more than a backup period, a mentor to the young guys. If we rely on him to be the starter for more than 4 games, Dallas could be in big trouble. Trust me, I would love to have him on the team, but only as a back up. Secondly, his signing will confirm to me that Henson will sit the entire year and we can dispell that this guy is going to be thrown into action.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by zack

Come on! Did you see him play last year? He is nothing more than a backup period, a mentor to the young guys. If we rely on him to be the starter for more than 4 games, Dallas could be in big trouble. Trust me, I would love to have him on the team, but only as a back up. Secondly, his signing will confirm to me that Henson will sit the entire year and we can dispell that this guy is going to be thrown into action.

Henson sitting all year depends on the teams record towards the end of the year IMO.

Dale · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by zack

Come on! Did you see him play last year? He is nothing more than a backup period, a mentor to the young guys. If we rely on him to be the starter for more than 4 games, Dallas could be in big trouble. Trust me, I would love to have him on the team, but only as a back up. Secondly, his signing will confirm to me that Henson will sit the entire year and we can dispell that this guy is going to be thrown into action.

I agree. Testaverde's stats are a bit misleading in my mind. He had a good TD-INT ratio and a solid quarterback rating, but when watching the Jets with him as the starter, their offense didn't seem to pack much heat. I think he provides what you're looking for in a backup quarterback (ie. doesn't make many costly errors), but if he's our starter, I'm afraid we'll be in trouble.

He'll make fewer mistakes than Quincy, but not as many big plays. Of course, maybe that's just what Parcells wants. We're about to see.