Question about Barry Church and Bill Nagy

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by TheCount

Kam Chancellor would like to see you in his office. Taylor Mays too.

Even if Church wins the job now, which I doubt... I think Matt Johnson eventually takes it.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Even if Church wins the job now, which I doubt... I think Matt Johnson eventually takes it.

I don't think Church is going to win it, not with a vet like Pool on the roster. Johnson is a complete wild card, I haven't seen him play a down of NFL ball yet.

[Lonestar94]

Has there ever been a pro bowl or HOF type Safety with Church's speed? Serious question

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Lonestar94

Has there ever been a pro bowl or HOF type Safety with Church's speed? Serious question

Yeah, back when the helmets were leather.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by Lonestar94

Has there ever been a pro bowl or HOF type Safety with Church's speed? Serious question

"Oh, Hai."

[hutch1254]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

That's like asking me if I would rather get hit in the face or the gut.


I think Nagy has a little more upside. I think he can gain a little more weight and get a little stronger. Church will never be fast enough, or quick enough to be a good safety IMO.

Head...or...gut?

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by TheCount

"Oh, Hai."

Not every large bodied, slow safety is going to be a "David Fulcher".

I'm not totally sold on Kam Chancellor... Yet.

[Texas_Pete]

Jerome Henderson seems to like him:

"When you watch him on tape, he just jumps out at you," Henderson said of the 6-2, 220-pound Church. "You say, 'Wow, we've got to find ways to play this guy more.' He just shows up making plays. All the time. Always around the ball. You look at that, you say you want to give him more opportunities. Now he's getting his opportunities. We'll see how it plays out."

LINK

Admittedly, I haven't seen enough Cowboy games last year to form an opinion on him. I'm curious to see what other Zoners think.

[dez_for_prez]

He looks like Ray Lewis.... I couldn't help my self.

[Texas_Pete]

Didn't see the other Church threads (sorry mods). Please merge.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Not every large bodied, slow safety is going to be a "David Fulcher".

I'm not totally sold on Kam Chancellor... Yet.

I'm not the one generalizing here.

The idea that .1 sec in the 40 is the difference between his being good or not just strikes me as short changing a guy that the team seems to love.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by TheCount

I'm not the one generalizing here.

The idea that .1 sec in the 40 is the difference between his being good or not just strikes me as short changing a guy that the team seems to love.

Sometimes that .1 sec in the 40 is the difference that separates a starter from a backup.

This is probably going to be the season in which Church is going to have establish himself as a starter.

[Vintage]

He has Ken Hamlin potential.



Sorry. Couldn't resist taking a shot at theo.

This post wasn't alcohol induced.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Sometimes that .1 sec in the 40 is the difference that separates a starter from a backup.

This is probably going to be the season in which Church is going to have establish himself as a starter.

I agree, sometimes it does. Most of the time though, it means very little. I also agree that this is the year he'd have to do it, if he's going to do it. But even if he doesn't, there's still a role for him on the team.

[gmoney112]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Work ethic won't make him faster or quicker.

He's is what he is... a 4.70 forty safety.

Not sure what Costa has to do with this, but whatever.

Through proper training and diet he could absolutely improve his explosion and speed.

The kid came from Toledo. He won't ever be a 4.3 type guy but saying that work ethic can't improve your speed/explosion is pretty ignorant.