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06-22-2012
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Originally Posted by junk
You can only do so much in 1 offseason. I'd be surprised if center isn't an area that they look to address next year (.....Barrett Jones....)
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That's a valid point.
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06-22-2012
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#17
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you can somewhat cover up a weak player but you cannot perform WELL in that area doing so. Costus a season has to go.
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06-22-2012
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#18
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Originally Posted by Prossman
Costa is by far the biggest question mark on this team. I do like his work ethic and film study, but he will have to make a quantum leap at center this year for any superbowl dream to be fulfilled. He was ranked 30 out of 32 centers in the nfl and that about says it all. To his credit he has been 110% hardcore this offseason and i hope it translates. Ideally if leary takes the right guard spot and Bernadeau moves to center would breathe a sigh of relief in me. The bottom line is we need a upgrade here, and unless a veteran becomes a cap casualty somewhere, it probably wont be until next year
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I'm curious as to why so many seem to think moving Bernadeau to center is the answer. From what I've read, he's practiced some at center but has never actually played the position in a single game. That is not an answer IMO. While Costa is far from great, at least he's a center. Bernadeau is a guard that has never played the center position, at least when it counts.
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06-22-2012
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#19
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Originally Posted by Star4Ever
I'm curious as to why so many seem to think moving Bernadeau to center is the answer. From what I've read, he's practiced some at center but has never actually played the position in a single game. That is not an answer IMO. While Costa is far from great, at least he's a center. Bernadeau is a guard that has never played the center position, at least when it counts.
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because costus a season is that bad
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06-22-2012
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And absolutely no one knows how Bernadeau would fare playing center. You can't just plug a guy in like that. I'm not saying he can or can't be an upgrade over Costa at center, but not a single person on this forum has any idea either. It's an unknown. Should the team explore it? Maybe. I'll leave those decisions to the coaches.
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06-22-2012
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#21
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Originally Posted by Star4Ever
And absolutely no one knows how Bernadeau would fare playing center. You can't just plug a guy in like that. I'm not saying he can or can't be an upgrade over Costa at center, but not a single person on this forum has any idea either. It's an unknown. Should the team explore it? Maybe. I'll leave those decisions to the coaches.
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Not so fast..there are aspects to the situation as well. Bernadeau is actually better at working a double team and then feeding into the second level. A major aspect of a Center. Also, from a set/down position, he is much faster at moving from it and going lateral. That is a major asset for a center.
Costa is slow out of his stance, has short arms, and was blitzed, bull rushed, and worked because of those tendencies. It also, was probably a reason, trying to speed up his own reactions, why snaps were off as well.
On a physical characteristic scale, Bernadeau would be a likely candidate for the position. He had the toughness to start, as he was first, a guard...and stuck. Then there is the size and balance advantages to his pass blocking as well.
There's no right way to do the wrong thing.
To compete for the playoffs, Dallas has to improve here: Only four sacks against Eli Manning over the past six games!
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06-22-2012
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#22
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Originally Posted by Mr Cowboy
For some reason, people here think that with better guards, defenses will no longer attack Costa. If anything, with an off season of film study by opposing teams, they will devise even more ways to attack Costa. We are doomed with him as the starting center.
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So how do you explain that his performance improved considerably over the last half of the season? Teams would seem to have had a good bit more film on him at that point.
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06-22-2012
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#23
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Originally Posted by AbeBeta
So how do you explain that his performance improved considerably over the last half of the season? Teams would seem to have had a good bit more film on him at that point.
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I'm rooting for Costa, if he makes it through or not...I like his guts, and he's a Cowboy player.
There's no right way to do the wrong thing.
To compete for the playoffs, Dallas has to improve here: Only four sacks against Eli Manning over the past six games!
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06-22-2012
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#24
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Originally Posted by AbeBeta
So how do you explain that his performance improved considerably over the last half of the season? Teams would seem to have had a good bit more film on him at that point.
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How is being the 30th ranked center an improvement? An improvement from what? Really, Really, Really bad to Really, really bad? Micky is the only one saying he improved and a few on here have jumped on Micky's words of wisdom.
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06-22-2012
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AbeBeta
So how do you explain that his performance improved considerably over the last half of the season? Teams would seem to have had a good bit more film on him at that point.
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I agree. Costa play did improve as the season went on. He still has a ways to go in terms of developing skills. He is by all accounts a very hard worker and will also spend a lot of time in film study. I'm not completely sold on him but if he can go out this training camp and pre season and show he can do the job at an acceptable level then great. He is still a very young player now entering his 3rd season with last year as his 1st as a starter. Unlike some I'm willing to give him the time to prove himself. If you are not willing to do that then why bother getting young players.
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06-22-2012
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AbeBeta
So how do you explain that his performance improved considerably over the last half of the season? Teams would seem to have had a good bit more film on him at that point.
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yeah he went from horrible to lousy. Great improvement.
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06-22-2012
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#27
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
I agree. Costa play did improve as the season went on. He still has a ways to go in terms of developing skills. He is by all accounts a very hard worker and will also spend a lot of time in film study. I'm not completely sold on him but if he can go out this training camp and pre season and show he can do the job at an acceptable level then great. He is still a very young player now entering his 3rd season with last year as his 1st as a starter. Unlike some I'm willing to give him the time to prove himself. If you are not willing to do that then why bother getting young players.
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Good fan shot there... 
There's no right way to do the wrong thing.
To compete for the playoffs, Dallas has to improve here: Only four sacks against Eli Manning over the past six games!
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06-22-2012
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Cowboy
How is being the 30th ranked center an improvement? An improvement from what? Really, Really, Really bad to Really, really bad? Micky is the only one saying he improved and a few on here have jumped on Micky's words of wisdom.
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If his play does not improve then he will likely loose the starting role. The Cowboys do have others who will be competing and in the end that is where it should be settled on the field.
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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06-22-2012
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#29
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
yeah he went from horrible to lousy. Great improvement.
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Send a request to couchscout and ask why Costa is still around...you seem to listen to him.
There's no right way to do the wrong thing.
To compete for the playoffs, Dallas has to improve here: Only four sacks against Eli Manning over the past six games!
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06-22-2012
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#30
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Originally Posted by CCBoy
Good fan shot there... 
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I'm just not anti or pro any player. I want guys going out there working and competing. If you go out and show you can do the job then great, what you did last year does not mean Jack what matter is have you developed and if so can you go out and do the job at hand.
People get caught up in young players having poor season and act as if that is as good as they will ever be. In my view players can improve though hard work and dedications so let them battle it out on the field whoever wins the job should be the starting center. Who wins does not make a difference only their performance
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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