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Old 07-20-2012   #16
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2 game suspension sends a message to team and to the league that Dallas is capable of self governing themselves. Part of the hefty salary cap fine against dallas was because Jerry Jones and Snyder are largely seen as having no ability to self govern. If Jerry truly wants Garrett to be face of this franchise and lead them forward he need to let Garrett drop the hammer here and hand down suspension to Dez.
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Old 07-20-2012   #17
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If we hear of a suspension of Dez before training camp - we know Garrett is in full control and that order has been restored for this franchise. It won't be easy as Dez is Jerry Jones most coveted pet project.

However, If Dallas does nothing and Roger Goodell steps in with his own suspension then Garrett will appear powerless to Jerry Jones.

Critical juncture in Jason Garrett coaching career.
unless bryant gets convicted of something, i doubt anyone will be suspending him. (yes, i am ignoring the roethlisberger precedent)
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unless bryant gets convicted of something, i doubt anyone will be suspending him. (yes, i am ignoring the roethlisberger precedent)
I agree there has to be self admission on Dez part or conviction. However, I find it highly unlikely Dez will want to drag out a court hearing with training camp approaching and him playing out a contract year.
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My God for the last freaking time Dez Bryant isn't getting suspended.
DA's going to press charges, which yes implies his mother is pressing charges against her own son and effectively starts open season on Dez for Goodell and any other haters out there. No one can help him now.

See you in October, Dez, and I wouldn't wish your mother on my enemies.
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2 game suspension sends a message to team and to the league that Dallas is capable of self governing themselves. Part of the hefty salary cap fine against dallas was because Jerry Jones and Snyder are largely seen as having no ability to self govern. If Jerry truly wants Garrett to be face of this franchise and lead them forward he need to let Garrett drop the hammer here and hand down suspension to Dez.
Its quite amusing how you assume to know what Garrett is thinking.
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If we hear of a suspension of Dez before training camp - we know Garrett is in full control and that order has been restored for this franchise. It won't be easy as Dez is Jerry Jones most coveted pet project.

However, If Dallas does nothing and Roger Goodell steps in with his own suspension then Garrett will appear powerless to Jerry Jones.

Critical juncture in Jason Garrett coaching career.
there is no coach in this league that would suspend his own players for things that happen in the off season and while they are not in camp. why? because they are not allowed to and I have yet to see any coach really do anything for DUI's, scuffles, etc.

, its only the league office that's allowed to do suspensions based on players acitivites in the off season.

I think you are trying to create something that's not there.
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Keep him out the first half of the first game or something similar to that. That is all that I expect from Red and it would be enough in my opinion.

We do not know enough yet to get to critical on him.
I have only seen one time a coach suspend a player for a half. the rest of ht etime, it was a series or just not starting to send a message.

some of you guys are trying ot create something, knowing that it won't happen, then go back and point to it to say Garrett shown weakness.... based on whose standards?
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Did Dez committed some heinous crime here?

Or just a misdemeanor charge that hasn't gone through the process yet?

Sigh.

the motto is guilty until proven innocent. don't you know how it works?
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2 game suspension sends a message to team and to the league that Dallas is capable of self governing themselves. Part of the hefty salary cap fine against dallas was because Jerry Jones and Snyder are largely seen as having no ability to self govern. If Jerry truly wants Garrett to be face of this franchise and lead them forward he need to let Garrett drop the hammer here and hand down suspension to Dez.

WHAT!!!, so in your view, dallas would suspend him, and Goodell will layoff and next teams start to self impose penalties and we get into this tug of war between goodell and the teams about suspension imposed by teams being enough or not!!! seriously..... that's your solution!!!

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DA's going to press charges, which yes implies his mother is pressing charges against her own son and effectively starts open season on Dez for Goodell and any other haters out there. No one can help him now.

See you in October, Dez, and I wouldn't wish your mother on my enemies.
In Texas, the DA can press charges, and always will, when visible injuries are in play. The victim has no say in the matter.

This is so the assailant - especially gangs - can't intimidate victims from pressing charges.
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the motto is guilty until proven innocent. don't you know how it works?
The league has a conduct policy - like ANY business - that can suspend a player for merely bringing bad publicity to the league.

Just like your boss can fire or suspend you for posting controversial things on your Facebook page.

Employment isn't a right. It comes with responsibility and a certain sacrifice in freedoms. For instance, you can't call your boss a **** and expect to keep your job. You won't go to jail, but you will get fired.

My guess is that Dez will get a one-game suspension.
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Lotta wind blowing in these thread nowadays....
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We need to know what exactly happened and judge from there. Simple assaults can range from simply brushing somebody aside to very physical violence and it can often be thru no fault of the person that gets charged.

So, if Dez was completely in the wrong and did something quite violent to his mother…then we need to suspend him. If not, then we need to look at a different course of action.

But, blindly saying ‘if we don’t suspend him, that means Jerry is in charge’ is really a silly statement and just another way for the Jerry haters to come up with some silly excuse to hate the guy. We get it. And we’ve gotten it for the past 22 years.







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2 game suspension sends a message to team and to the league that Dallas is capable of self governing themselves. Part of the hefty salary cap fine against dallas was because Jerry Jones and Snyder are largely seen as having no ability to self govern. If Jerry truly wants Garrett to be face of this franchise and lead them forward he need to let Garrett drop the hammer here and hand down suspension to Dez.
No, it had nothing to do with that. Other teams broke the salary cap 'rule' as well and were not suspended. For whatever reason, Goodell has become the sock puppet for Kraft and Mara and Mara complained and Goodell acted like the sock puppet that he is. The Skins and Cowboys didn't take it further for various reasons, mostly so they wouldn't get on Goodell's bad side. But, if it had been settle in court, we would have won easily and it had nothing to do with a lack of ability or willingness to 'self govern' the organization.







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If we hear of a suspension of Dez before training camp - we know Garrett is in full control and that order has been restored for this franchise. It won't be easy as Dez is Jerry Jones most coveted pet project.

However, If Dallas does nothing and Roger Goodell steps in with his own suspension then Garrett will appear powerless to Jerry Jones.

Critical juncture in Jason Garrett coaching career.
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