The offensive line excuse is getting old folks - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

iceberg · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

But when it comes to the offensive line, it is what it is right? It's not going to change the rest of the season so why not adjust to it?

you do that.

rickjameschinaclub · 10-08-2012

People forget how bad the line was before romo even made his pro debut and how much better it looked with him in there...

Hostile · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by links18

You clicked on it.

After it happened. I didn't cause this one.

Canada180 · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

So since Romo runs the offense isn't it his job to talk to the coach to handle teams who like to blitz? Why continue to do a 5 step drop if you know that the O-line is not built for it? Maybe quicker passes?

Well bro, when a line cant open a millimetre for a RB to run through, the other team will start bringing it every down. Whats a Qb gonna do .

man 'o man

sonnyboy · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

Any Cowboys fan who watches the games knows that Romo does have time to throw on certain downs but has sometimes made crucial mistakes. Yes the line can use some improvement but that excuse for me is too convenient because as the QB you have to adjust to the O-Line you have and make plays. I;m sure he can't walk up to Jerry Jones and say I would be able to play better if the O-line was a lot stronger. So Romo needs to accept that this is the line he is playing with the rest of the season and try to do his best to be effective. If he feels the other team's defense is rushing a lot then it's up to him to communicate that to the coach so they can work together to make an adjustment. Also no QB can ever use the O-line as an excuse for why the offense is not scoring because he is not paid to just all the protection in the world on every down. And lastly, when Romo's career is all done with and he never made the SB or only won 2 playoff games, are people really going to say he could have [View Full Quote]

OK than how about we "use it" as a reason. The OL problem has little to do with pass protection and everything to do with why we can't run the ball.

The pass blocking has actually been OK and Romo greatness and the threat to kill you getting out of the pocket has actually elevated it to good.

But we can't run the ball.

gimmesix · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

Any Cowboys fan who watches the games knows that Romo does have time to throw on certain downs but has sometimes made crucial mistakes. Yes the line can use some improvement but that excuse for me is too convenient because as the QB you have to adjust to the O-Line you have and make plays. I;m sure he can't walk up to Jerry Jones and say I would be able to play better if the O-line was a lot stronger. So Romo needs to accept that this is the line he is playing with the rest of the season and try to do his best to be effective. If he feels the other team's defense is rushing a lot then it's up to him to communicate that to the coach so they can work together to make an adjustment. Also no QB can ever use the O-line as an excuse for why the offense is not scoring because he is not paid to just all the protection in the world on every down. And lastly, when Romo's career is all done with and he never made the SB or only won 2 playoff games, are people really going to say he [View Full Quote]

Some of us like to put credit or blame where it is deserved, and the offensive line deserves some of it.

I do not absolve Romo of bad throws he's made when he wasn't hit or really pressured, or when he should have just thrown the ball away.

I also do not absolve the line when Romo is being hit constantly or is hit while trying to throw the ball. (The offensive line deserved direct blame for Romo's third interception Monday, the one that should have been called a fumble.)

I also do not absolve the receivers when they run the wrong route or simply do not catch the ball when it is thrown to them. (See interceptions No. 1 and 2 against Chicago)

I think any knowledgeable fan understands there is simply more to turnovers/interceptions than saying it's the quarterback's fault. At times, it is (the final interception against Chicago was all Romo), but at times, it isn't.

If we're referring to Monday's game, though, the offensive line wasn't really the main problem, the receivers were. I thought the line actually played better than it had against Seattle and Tampa Bay ... of course, it's not too hard to look better than it did in those games.

CowboysFanSince88 · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by GOLDENCHILD1688

man I hate bye weeks after a loss more then anything around here. smh

At first threads like this offered comic relief now its just plain annoying lol

I think you are losing sight of the fact that Romo is still paid to perform regardless of how bad you think the O-line this season.

CowboysFanSince88 · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Canada180

Well bro, when a line cant open a millimetre for a RB to run through, the other team will start bringing it every down. Whats a Qb gonna do .

man 'o man

Not necessarily run but quicker passes so he can avoid sacks and negative plays.

Risen Star · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

To think that this is not a domino effect with the QB and wide receivers and their timing is amazing to me.

You may think as you like. But that doesn't change the fact that this is perhaps the worst offensive line I have seen since the early sixties.

Yeah, seems like a fan who just doesn't want to accept the truth. So he's taken a stand. He refuses to face reality from this point on.

Canada180 · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

I think you are losing sight of the fact that Romo is still paid to perform regardless of how bad you think the O-line this season.

My head hurts

CowboysFanSince88 · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by sonnyboy

OK than how about we "use it" as a reason. The OL problem has little to do with pass protection and everything to do with why we can't run the ball.

The pass blocking has actually been OK and Romo greatness and the threat to kill you getting out of the pocket has actually elevated it to good.

But we can't run the ball.

So wouldn't 3 step drops and quicker passes open up the run game?

anj113 · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

Any Cowboys fan who watches the games knows that Romo does have time to throw on certain downs but has sometimes made crucial mistakes. Yes the line can use some improvement but that excuse for me is too convenient because as the QB you have to adjust to the O-Line you have and make plays. I;m sure he can't walk up to Jerry Jones and say I would be able to play better if the O-line was a lot stronger. So Romo needs to accept that this is the line he is playing with the rest of the season and try to do his best to be effective. If he feels the other team's defense is rushing a lot then it's up to him to communicate that to the coach so they can work together to make an adjustment. Also no QB can ever use the O-line as an excuse for why the offense is not scoring because he is not paid to just all the protection in the world on every down. And lastly, when Romo's career is all done with and he never made the SB or only won 2 playoff games, are people really going to say he [View Full Quote]

its getting old and you know why? because the managment NEVER fixes it... Its been like this for years... It took us 15 years to improve our CB and we are still waiting to replace Woodson at Safety..

gimmesix · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

Not necessarily run but quicker passes so he can avoid sacks and negative plays.

If a team knows you can't block and believes it can get to the quarterback easily, it will have its corners sit on the short routes to force the quarterback to hold the ball.

Quicker passes in that case would more likely result in more interceptions.

The keys to avoiding negative plays by the quarterback are to establish a running game and force a team to work for pressure. (If a team can stop the run and put pressure on the quarterback without blitzing or bringing up a safety, then there's going to be sacks and negative plays.)

CowboysFanSince88 · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by anj113

its getting old and you know why? because the managment NEVER fixes it... Its been like this for years... It took us 15 years to improve our CB and we are still waiting to replace Woodson at Safety..

Exactly, so Romo might as well deal with it and work around it because it's not going to change no time soon.

anj113 · 10-08-2012

THis is the problem.. You all focus on Romo.. HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM... He is so FAR from the problem.. This team isnt any good.. It has so many holes and weakness year afetr year after year... Jerry must love the fact that the media and all the fans blame ROmo and thats the talk and all the gets deflected how piss poorly this team is constructed year after year... Romo is NOT the problem with this team..