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jgboys1 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Hostile

0% chance.

I agree.

**ABQCOWBOY** · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by KB1122

90 years of NFL football. 1 coach that has won a championship in two different places.

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You did say win.

Sorry about that.

rocboy22 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

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4 that I can think of right now.

Shula, Parcells, Reeves and Vermiel. Unless, of course, I am misinterpreting your statement.

Parcells? Only Giants, right?

Vermiel? Only Rams, right?

Shula? Only Dolphins, right?

Reeves? huh?

rocboy22 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Corrected:

You did say win.

Sorry about that.

this now makes my other post irrelevant! thanks a lot, haha

Future · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by KB1122

90 years of NFL football. 1 coach that has won a championship in two different places.

Not true...

Jimmy Johnson won in Pasadena and in Atlanta

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**ABQCOWBOY** · 10-31-2012

Redball reminds me a lot of Sean Payton circa 2002. Now, I am not saying that Garrett is going to ultimately become Payton so please, don't start down that path. He may end up seeing that kind of success but I doubt it will be in Dallas.

Payton, like Garrett, was a career backup in the NFL. Payton, like Garrett, was a QB Coach in Philly and then in NY. Payton, like Garrett, was promoted to OC from QB coach. Payton, like Garrett was considered to be a Wunderkind but while in New York, fell out of grace with his Head Coach. At this point, the story takes a different path. This never happened with Garrett. In the case of Payton, he was fired and later got on with Dallas under Parcells. This was probably one of the best things that could have ever happened to Payton. Parcells taught Payton about football and how it works. Payton was always a great offensive minded coach but he never understood the value of field position, turnovers and how offense influences defense and how both have to work together to win. I think that Parcells taught him this and also the value of detail in Coaching. He taught him how to be a HC. That has not happened to Garrett and as long as he stays in Dallas, it probably never will.

It is very unfortunate for both Garrett and the Cowboys because I do believe that Garrett will eventually be a fine HC in this league but not until he gets fired and moves on IMO. Somebody is going to benefit from the time invested in Garrett but I don't think it's going to be us sadly.

craig71 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by KB1122

90 years of NFL football. 1 coach that has won a championship in two different places.

No head coach has won a super bowl for two different franchises(as others have pointed out). A few have came close, but none have pulled off the feat as of yet. About the only person that you could argue that came close was Weeb Ewbank who coached the Colts to a couple of championship titles in the late 50's. After the Colts fired Ewbank(for Don Shula) he took over the Jets and in 68' those Jets defeated Shula's Colts in super bowl III.

Craig

Supercowboy1986 · 10-31-2012

if gruden comes to dallas consider it a christmas miracle.

Chocolate Lab · 10-31-2012

The "never won two SB" argument is laughable. Like getting to a SB as Parcells or Holmgren did wouldn't be preferable to what we're doing now.

And Holmgren should have done it anyway if not for the worst-called SB I've ever seen.

Aven8 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

The "never won two SB" argument is laughable. Like getting to a SB as Parcells or Holmgren did wouldn't be preferable to what we're doing now.

And Holmgren should have done it anyway if not for the worst-called SB I've ever seen.

I'm with you. I would leap over Cowboys stadium tomorrow if we could get Holmgren or Gruden as our next HC.

Hostile · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by KB1122

90 years of NFL football. 1 coach that has won a championship in two different places.

I could easily be wrong, but I don't believe any coach has won championships with 2 different franchises.

rocboy22 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Hostile

I could easily be wrong, but I don't believe any coach has won championships with 2 different franchises.

see craig71's post above

dallasdave · 10-31-2012

Gruden, do whatever it takes to get him.

CanadianCowboysFan · 10-31-2012

I would love to have Chucky as HC, but of course, you know the buttheads in New York and elsewhere will insist we have legitimate interviews with minority candidates as a facade before we hire Gruden.

That is why the Rooney Rule is flawed tremendously. If Jerry wants Gruden, he will get Gruden. Having to reinterview Mike Singletary will not change that decision.

dallasdave · 10-31-2012

Gruden as head coach and Norv Turner as off coordinator -once he is fired by the Chargers.