FSSW: Decoding Garrett: Garrett appears almost out of ideas - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Kangaroo · 11-06-2012

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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

So even Bob is now turning on Garrett... nice....

No Bob is stating what he sees nothing more.

Kangaroo · 11-06-2012

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Originally Posted by McLovin

Because there has never been accountability since Parcells left and won't be until Garret and JJ are gone.

Biggest pet peeve is talk about culture change and instilling "accountability"

It is a joke that lost it's humor 2 years ago.

Dallas is not the only team that does this I see it all the time in the NFL where coaches hangs on to the Vets starting over young guys. Even after they lose week after week with the same mantra they give us the best chance to win.

NFL coaches are a strange cat

rickjameschinaclub · 11-06-2012

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Originally Posted by Kangaroo

No Bob is stating what he sees nothing more.

Which is essentially that Jason Garrett is blowing it...

Bluestang · 11-06-2012

I'm not so sure that Garrett is out of ideas but rather he doesn't have the personnel to run his offense.

Laurent Robinson had alot of success as a deep threat. His long legs gave him a fast stride to stretch a defense vertically. (He also ran a 4.38 combine)

Ask yourselves the question...who is our deep threat in this offense?

Who are we using to stretch the defense vertically?

**Idgit** · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

I'm not so sure that Garrett is out of ideas but rather he doesn't have the personnel to run his offense.

Laurent Robinson had alot of success as a deep threat. His long legs gave him a fast stride to stretch a defense vertically. (He also ran a 4.38 combine)

Ask yourselves the question...who is our deep threat in this offense?

Who are we using to stretch the defense vertically?

I'm on record with this being the problem, too. That and the miscues from the guys we do have playing.

Then again, though, we went into the season with this group, thinking KO or maybe Holmes could replace Robinson and that Dez would improve. So far, it looks like we missed, badly, on both counts.

**big dog cowboy** · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

There are stories about how the 1992-93 Cowboys were so good at what they did that they almost never changed personnel packages and only ran about 7 different plays. But, they were so powerful and so loaded with talent that they could essentially announce their plans before a play and you still couldn't do anything to stop it.

I miss those days.

dexternjack · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

I'm on record with this being the problem, too. That and the miscues from the guys we do have playing.

Then again, though, we went into the season with this group, thinking KO or maybe Holmes could replace Robinson and that Dez would improve. So far, it looks like we missed, badly, on both counts.

That is definitely a problem, the system and personnel don't match well. But, isn't that Garrett's job to recognize and adjust to that?

It seems he is convinced his way is going to work and will not stop trying the same old stuff and adjust to to players. It should not have taken this long to recognize and I am not sure he even has yet.

**Idgit** · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by dexternjack

That is definitely a problem, the system and personnel don't match well. But, isn't that Garrett's job to recognize and adjust to that?

It seems he is convinced his way is going to work and will not stop trying the same old stuff and adjust to to players. It should not have taken this long to recognize and I am not sure he even has yet.

Yes, that's what I was saying. We went into the season with unworkable WRs.

I do think it's Garrett's job to fix, but I also think he's churned the roster quite a bit, and that we consciously focused on defense with the premium FA contracts and draft picks this offseason. Pretty obviously, we'll have to do the same on offense next offseason, getting a couple WRs and shoring up the right side of the OL.

blackbull · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

I'm not so sure that Garrett is out of ideas but rather he doesn't have the personnel to run his offense.

Laurent Robinson had alot of success as a deep threat. His long legs gave him a fast stride to stretch a defense vertically. (He also ran a 4.38 combine)

Ask yourselves the question...who is our deep threat in this offense?

Who are we using to stretch the defense vertically?

Good coaches adjust their offense if the personnel isn't a fit. But by all means give that trash coach his excuses. The great Laurent Robinson.

CyberB0b · 11-07-2012

Dez is no Michael Irvin, that is for sure. You need to put guys in positions to succeed and Garrett doesn't do that.

**jobberone** · 11-07-2012

I'm not a huge Garrett fan although I've been willing to give him his fair shot.

I'm on record as saying we have some personnel issues creating a lot of our problems with this offense.

Garrett can't run on the field and block, tackle and catch passes.

**Idgit** · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by blackbull

Good coaches adjust their offense if the personnel isn't a fit. But by all means give that trash coach his excuses. The great Laurent Robinson.

Not sure how you could read Bluestang's stuff and come away with your apparent conclusion, but that's on you.

I agree that some good coaches adjust their offense to personnel, but not all of them necessarily do it to the same extent. There's a lot to be said for having a system that works and the ability to find players who fit your system. PIT has done that for years on defense, and it works great once you have the players in place.

Garrett might not ultimately be a coach capable of doing that, and he's certainly been involved with the offensive roster long enough to make a case that he isn't, but I don't know how much control he really had or exerted during the Phillips era in that regard. What's obvious is what's wrong with our offense right now, and that ain't the pass blocking, and it ain't entirely the QB.

Chocolate Lab · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

I'm not so sure that Garrett is out of ideas but rather he doesn't have the personnel to run his offense.

Of course it isn't his fault... He's just hamstrung again...

17yearsandcounting · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Of course it isn't his fault... He's just hamstrung again...

Of course. Its never Jasons fault. When his offense was a disorganized penalty filled mess under Wade, it was all Wades fault for running 'soft' practices. When his offense is a disorganized, PATHETIC, penalty filled mess now that hes a coach its all the players fault. Whats the common factor here? One thing he did learn in the Ivy League is to deflect blame and secretly sabotage others like a champion.

rickjameschinaclub · 11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

Of course. Its never Jasons fault. When his offense was a disorganized penalty filled mess under Wade, it was all Wades fault for running 'soft' practices. When his offense is a disorganized, PATHETIC, penalty filled mess now that hes a coach its all the players fault. Whats the common factor here?

You forgot the cancer excuses as well... I swear I've never seen such blind adoration for a complete train wreck as a coach...