I think it may come down to Romo or Garrett

[kirkjrk]

Originally Posted by Clove

Romo still has a fan base. Garrett has none. Do the math.

Since when has Jerry cared what the fans think?

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by Clove

Romo still has a fan base. Garrett has none. Do the math.

I will take Garrett over Romo at this point.

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by kirkjrk

Since when has Jerry cared what the fans think?

When does the NFL really care what the fans think.

They put on a face like they do but they do not as long as you buy tickets and watch the games on TV they do not care.

[Jarv]

The team is undisciplined and routinely leads the league in penalties. Poor clock management and special teams flaws. Management did not shore up the offensive line to run the timing offense. JG was part of that management, Romo was not.

JG has more of an impact on this team than Romo and if he thinks its, Romo, please try Orton for a few games, starting next week.

Let's see if it is Romo or JG, because if Orton can help us contain penalties, make us run better and helps special teams, maybe he should be the HC.

[noshame]

Originally Posted by juck

Thats the only place he succeeded cause of that system. Romo is a WC QB. Short crossing routes. Romo and Reid would work.

How true, Romo needs horizontal routes. I would like to see what Orton could do in this offense. Who knows he may do well, but i know for sure, Romo will not.

[cml750]

Originally Posted by juck

I think it may come down to Romo or Garrett.

If that is the case then Goodbye Garrett!!!!!!!

[honyock]

Originally Posted by jobberone

...Perhaps it's possible the problem is we just have enough short comings on offensive talent and makeup that we can't function well. If you think the major problem is Romo though then you are just wrong.

I agree...The mix of QB, wide receivers, OL and offensive system just doesn't seem to add up. The whole is less than the sum of the parts. In the short term (this year), unless the coach adjusts his approach to fit the players (who don't seem to fit each other, especially the fit between Romo and his receivers), it seems destined for more of the same.

Right now, I have more confidence that Romo would have success with a more flexible and adaptable HC, than I do that Garrett would succeed with another quarterback. Throw in receivers that have such holes in their games and the current state of the OL...jeesh, what a weird and dysfunctional mix.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by jobberone

Most of that offense is Witten underneath and short intermediates, Austin, and some Dez on crossing routes to the sideline. OT caught the TD on a broken play. Not being able to run is making us esp vunerable in the RZ esp on the goal line. We're just too one dimensional.

Not being able to run on the same cover 2 shell is the main culprit IMO. Garrett wants to impose his will on the defense with the running game but when you can't break a long run (10 yds or more) it's impossible to get the defense to respect your game.

The goal line stuff is all on the center/guards. The defense got lower than us and Cook being absolutely abysmal at it is a big problem.

What they should run is some stretch runs or tosses to the sidelines because we have the speed to get to the edges with Felix and Dunbar.

We seem to do ok from the 12 but just off of memory we don't seem to be doing that as much as last year but I don't have any stats just my impression.

It's the loss of Bennett that is hurting us on the 12 set. Bennett could single block a DE on the edge which allowed the T or the FB to seal the edge on the LBs. Phillips is not the same blocker, and Witten is too inconsistent at it also. It wasn't a secret with Bennett in, what the Cowboys would do but they could impose their will on the defense with Bennett in that role.

Why do you think the spread is successful? Some of that offense in hurry up has to be keeping the D off balance and out of some of their special packages I'd think. Imagine there is more to it than that though. What do you think?

When they split Witten out, it causes pre-snap movement that gives the defense's hand away.

In reality it's a multitude of things but you have matchups across the board that Romo is probably more comfortable with.

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

Greenbay can not run, oline is as bad or worse then ours but they are better at passing and can get TD in the Redzone still. Then again they execute better than us. I do not by you have to be able run to get TD's

Greenbay as a team has 2 rushing TD's that is it and they have 26.6 points a game

New Orleans who offense has still put up numbers has a total 4 rushing TD's and the team has 27.2 points a game

GB is +4 TO and NO is dead even.

So while a running game can make it easier to score it is not an excuse for Dallas not scoring.


Both those team are in the top 10 scoring teams.

Well we don't have their receiving corps. We have Witten and Austin and that doesn't stretch the field or pressure the defense enough. That's the difference in the passing game. You don't have to run the ball all over the other team to win you just have to run effectively enough to support the passing game.

[cowboyfan4life2]

Garrett is one of the worst coaches in the league, bottom five for sure. Romo at worst is a top 15 qb. Good qbs are hard to find, coaches are not when you are the dallas cowboys and have all the money in the world.

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Not being able to run on the same cover 2 shell is the main culprit IMO. Garrett wants to impose his will on the defense with the running game but when you can't break a long run (10 yds or more) it's impossible to get the defense to respect your game.

Yep. That's it. Not real threat means D can cheat on the other end.

The goal line stuff is all on the center/guards. The defense got lower than us and Cook being absolutely abysmal at it is a big problem.

I can accept that but I think it's the whole schlemiel.

What they should run is some stretch runs or tosses to the sidelines because we have the speed to get to the edges with Felix and Dunbar.

That isn't being run much and is inconsistent as well though.

[View Full Quote]It's the loss of Bennett that is hurting us on the 12 set. Bennett could single block a DE on the edge which allowed the T or the FB to seal the edge on the LBs. Phillips is not the same blocker, and Witten is too inconsistent at it also. It wasn't a secret with Bennett in, what the Cowboys would do but they could impose their will on the defense with Bennett in that role.

Absolutely.

When they split Witten out, it causes pre-snap movement that gives the defense's hand away.

It still amazes me how open Witten gets.

In reality it's a multitude of things but you have matchups across the board that Romo is probably more comfortable with.

He's definitely more comfortable with players who he knows are going to hit their mark consistently.

Thanks. I always enjoy talking football with you.

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by kirkjrk

I Agree. He will get his money he wants from another team, most probably of his choice. Why would he want to stay and put his health in jeopardy.? Why would he want to play for a coach that has no clue how to lead, discipline, call plays, just not HC material? Why would he want to continue playing for a delusional owner?

I agree.... PLEASE let him go to another team. I don't want to see him here anymore.

[tecolote]

Originally Posted by cowboyfan4life2

Garrett is one of the worst coaches in the league, bottom five for sure. Romo at worst is a top 15 qb. Good qbs are hard to find, coaches are not when you are the dallas cowboys and have all the money in the world.

This. Holmgren, Chucky, Cowher, maybe Payton, maybe Reid and other coaches will be available in the offseason. They are all a massive upgrade from Grarrett. Getting better coaching should not be hard, think about it, a better coach wins the East last year and has at least 2 more wins this season, it is just a question of money, and it does not count against the cap.

It is a shame that Tony has spent the majority of his career with Wade and Garrett as his head coaches. I would love to see him with someone competent at the helm.

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by jobberone

Well we don't have their receiving corps. We have Witten and Austin and that doesn't stretch the field or pressure the defense enough. That's the difference in the passing game. You don't have to run the ball all over the other team to win you just have to run effectively enough to support the passing game.

I understand our WR are not getting the job done and we are missing speed in the wr core and with the run game struggling we need the wr to pick up their game. The worse part is we have some talent at wr they are just under performing along with the run game.

Why I like to see someone other than olgtree out there just hoping a young guy provides us a spark