One thing that may be overlooked about Jerruh

[spolcyc]

I know people complain constantly about Jerruh and his skill as a GM and I will not argue that he hasn't always made the best decisions during his tenure as GM...however since 2010, him and his scouting staff have made selections at the top of the draft that are names that are already regularly called and forming the core of our team.

2010: People complain about Dez, but look at the players taken after him. Not a whole lot. Absolute HIT on Sean Lee in round 2. Multiple pro bowls in his future.

2011: Once Tyron gets acclimated to playing LT, he will be a perennial pro bowler. Bruce Carter has the potential with Lee to form the best ILB duo in the league within two years. Another shot at multiple pro bowls. Murray, while is appearing to possibly be injury prone, is an explosive power back, or in Merril Hodges words a "factor back" (I really hate that phrase by the way)

2012: Really too early to tell on Morris, but from what I've seen this year he has been holding his own as a rookie and I see the potential to grow into a player that is well worth a 6th overall pick.

There is much room for improvement in the lower 2/3rds of the draft, but I will say it is nice to see us not completely squandering our high draft picks either by trading them (Galloway and Williams) or wasting them on players that never contributed to the team (Bobby Carpenter, Bennett etc) and actually getting impact players that are forming an extremely solid core for our future.

[AZ_Cowboys_Fan]

Originally Posted by spolcyc

I know people complain constantly about Jerruh and his skill as a GM and I will not argue that he hasn't always made the best decisions during his tenure as GM...however since 2010, him and his scouting staff have made selections at the top of the draft that are names that are already regularly called and forming the core of our team.

2010: People complain about Dez, but look at the players taken after him. Not a whole lot. Absolute HIT on Sean Lee in round 2. Multiple pro bowls in his future.

2011: Once Tyron gets acclimated to playing LT, he will be a perennial pro bowler. Bruce Carter has the potential with Lee to form the best ILB duo in the league within two years. Another shot at multiple pro bowls. Murray, while is appearing to possibly be injury prone, is an explosive power back, or in Merril Hodges words a "factor back" (I really hate that phrase by the way)

[View Full Quote]2012: Really too early to tell on Morris, but from what I've seen this year he has been holding his own as a rookie and I see the potential to grow into a player that is well worth a 6th overall pick.

There is much room for improvement in the lower 2/3rds of the draft, but I will say it is nice to see us not completely squandering our high draft picks either by trading them (Galloway and Williams) or wasting them on players that never contributed to the team (Bobby Carpenter, Bennett etc) and actually getting impact players that are forming an extremely solid core for our future.

Agreed, people focus on the bad picks but we've really been nailing our high picks lately. I can't be too mad about Dez because at the time I fully endorsed that pick. Don't forget about Crawford, he looks like he has a lot of promise.

[HowAboutThemCowboys]

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. It's hard to ignore some of his drafts where he whiffed on the entire draft.

[Cajuncowboy]

Originally Posted by spolcyc

I know people complain constantly about Jerruh and his skill as a GM and I will not argue that he hasn't always made the best decisions during his tenure as GM...however since 2010, him and his scouting staff have made selections at the top of the draft that are names that are already regularly called and forming the core of our team.

2010: People complain about Dez, but look at the players taken after him. Not a whole lot. Absolute HIT on Sean Lee in round 2. Multiple pro bowls in his future.

2011: Once Tyron gets acclimated to playing LT, he will be a perennial pro bowler. Bruce Carter has the potential with Lee to form the best ILB duo in the league within two years. Another shot at multiple pro bowls. Murray, while is appearing to possibly be injury prone, is an explosive power back, or in Merril Hodges words a "factor back" (I really hate that phrase by the way)

[View Full Quote]2012: Really too early to tell on Morris, but from what I've seen this year he has been holding his own as a rookie and I see the potential to grow into a player that is well worth a 6th overall pick.

There is much room for improvement in the lower 2/3rds of the draft, but I will say it is nice to see us not completely squandering our high draft picks either by trading them (Galloway and Williams) or wasting them on players that never contributed to the team (Bobby Carpenter, Bennett etc) and actually getting impact players that are forming an extremely solid core for our future.

The bolded part is the concern. When you are picking at the top of the draft unless you are completely incompetent then you are going to hit on them generally. But where the GMs make their reps is beyond that.

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by HowAboutThemCowboys

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. It's hard to ignore some of his drafts where he whiffed on the entire draft.

You mean the "special teams draft" didn't impress you?

[spolcyc]

By no means am I saying Jerruh would receive an A from me in the GM department. All I am saying is I'm glad to see we're at least making progress in the competency level in the draft. I would agree that you generally "hit" on players in the early rounds of the draft, with the majority becoming servicable starters.

What I'm saying is we've drafted more than just "servicable" players the last three years. The top two picks the last three years (depending on if Dez can learn a playbook...) I believe both Lee and Carter will have more than a couple pro bowls by the time they hang the cleats up along with Smith. We've drafted the beginnings of a very solid nucleus to pass the torch to from the current one

[cowboyeric8]

*Jerry

[Future]

Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy

The bolded part is the concern. When you are picking at the top of the draft unless you are completely incompetent then you are going to hit on them generally. But where the GMs make their reps is beyond that.

Well...Lee and Carter were both second rounders and DeMarco came in the third. I'd say those guys are hits. Tyrone Crawford looks like he'll be a good player.

Great teams are built in the mid rounds. Hitting on guys like that are huge. I think that's probably where JG has had his biggest impact, because the drafting before him in those rounds, albeit hindered by some injuries, was putrid.

[erod]

The definition of Jerry was the 2009 draft. What a collection of nothing that was, especially considering that the first-rounder (and others) were given up for Roy Williams.

Jerry did NOT want to draft Tyron Smith. I'm sure he kicked and screamed through that whole draft, which Garrett and company ran.

Jerry is Shante Carver, Kavika Pittman, Ebennezar Ekuban, Dwayne Goodrich, Quincy Carter, Solomon Page, Drew Henson, Chad Hutchinson....

Jerry is an unmitigated football disaster.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Bruce Carter has the potential with Lee to form the best ILB duo in the league within two years.

Those 2 LBs in SF probably say your flat-out wrong...

[Future]

Originally Posted by erod

The definition of Jerry was the 2009 draft. What a collection of nothing that was, especially considering that the first-rounder (and others) were given up for Roy Williams.

Jerry did NOT want to draft Tyron Smith. I'm sure he kicked and screamed through that whole draft, which Garrett and company ran.

Jerry is Shante Carver, Kavika Pittman, Ebennezar Ekuban, Dwayne Goodrich, Quincy Carter, Solomon Page, Drew Henson, Chad Hutchinson....

Jerry is an unmitigated football disaster.

This is so off base. You can bash Jerry for mistakes, sure, he makes them. But pretty much every GM in the history of the NFL does. Look at the draft picks teams like Buffalo routinely make. John McCargo? Aaron Maybin? And those guys went early.

If you're going to credit Jerry for all the bad moves, you have to credit him for the good ones. Tony and Miles are undrafted. Rat was a 7th rounder. Considering his career, Witten was a great pick even though he went in the 2nd. If it was up to Parcells, Spears goes at 11 and we probably don't get Ware.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by erod

Jerry did NOT want to draft Tyron Smith. I'm sure he kicked and screamed through that whole draft, which Garrett and company ran.

How do you know Garrett did? Roy Williams, Brad Johnson, Kitna, Felix Jones... let go of Amendola, playing Kevin Ogletree

[Future]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

Those 2 LBs in SF probably say your flat-out wrong...

They might play better as a duo, but I don't think individually they are better. There might not be a LB in the league with more physical ability than Carter.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Future

They might play better as a duo, but I don't think individually they are better. There might not be a LB in the league with more physical ability than Carter.

They both are more physically gifted than Sean Lee. And Patrick Willis is a beast. But that's not a knock on Carter...

[Future]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

Uh, Patrick Willis.. but that's not a knock on Carter...

As a pure athlete, I don't think Willis is. Maybe, but not obviously.

Willis is the best LB in football because he combines intelligence, instincts, and athleticism. He's better than Carter in the first two categories for sure, but as an athlete, I'm not sure.