No thread about the 2nd to last possesion?

[BAZ]

It's one of those things, we won the game so it doesn't seem so bad, if we didn't I'd feel different. But heres the rub, seven sacks, let the D ice the game.

[sonnyboy]

Originally Posted by bbailey423

week 1 against the Giants...we tried to win the game....slant to Ogletree...1st down...game over. Last year....we called 3 straight dives into the OL....give the ball BACK to Tom Brady....and dared the most clutch QB or our era...in his own house....to win the game. I think we all know what happened. And did I mention we missed the playoffs by one game last year?

This is a worse comparison than your OP. Manning!!

Come on, we were near mid field and threw the ball on 3rd and long to attempt to ice it. That was as obvious a call as today's.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by sonnyboy

This is a worse comparison than your OP. Manning!!

Come on, we were near mid field and threw the ball on 3rd and long to attempt to ice it. That was as obvious a call as today's.

Exactly. Night and day difference between the two scenarios.

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by Diogenes

Had Garrett called a pass play from the 1 yard line and it resulted in a sack/fumble/defensive TD or an int or even a safety and Browns win, he would have been crucified in this place.

Garrett is always criticized. The trick is to be able to sift through the rubbish and find the criticisms that are valid. Some are. This one clearly, is not.

[bbailey423]

Originally Posted by CoCo

Garrett is always criticized. The trick is to be able to sift through the rubbish and find the criticisms that are valid. Some are. This one clearly, is not.

I guess we should have just took 3 knees to avoid our backup RB....playing behind our backup OL....from fumbling the ball?

[tecolote]

Originally Posted by Diogenes

Had Garrett called a pass play from the 1 yard line and it resulted in a sack/fumble/defensive TD or an int or even a safety and Browns win, he would have been crucified in this place.

There is a risk in every play you call, in this case Garrett took the risk of playing to punt from the 1 and it backfired. If you think about it, maybe a safety or a quick Defensive TD would've been better than what actually happened.

[links18]

Originally Posted by Mansta54

Yes, I did want them to attempt a pass downfield off play action to Felix. Their corners were grabbing, holding, and getting beat all game. I really like JG but I hate when he coaches SCARED. Also, the oline gave Romo time in the 2nd half, that's how we took the lead.

We have a winner. Your best post of all time. Congratulations.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by CoCo

Garrett is always criticized. The trick is to be able to sift through the rubbish and find the criticisms that are valid. Some are. This one clearly, is not.

There certainly are fair, constructive criticisms to be had about Garrett. But when people overreach, like here, they don't help their cause. In another thread a poster actually put the Romo fumble on Garrett. Such extremes.

[links18]

Originally Posted by tecolote

There is a risk in every play you call, in this case Garrett took the risk of playing to punt from the 1 and it backfired. If you think about it, maybe a safety or a quick Defensive TD would've been better than what actually happened.

I thought about an intentional safety there, but the lead was only four points, so if you take the safety a FG beats you and Len Dawson has a big leg.

[goshan]

I didn't like the calls. We needed to try at least one pass.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by tecolote

There is a risk in every play you call, in this case Garrett took the risk of playing to punt from the 1 and it backfired. If you think about it, maybe a safety or a quick Defensive TD would've been better than what actually happened.

We didn't have the benefit of hindsight. We didn't know the punter was going to crap the bed. We didn't know the D was going to give up a TD and make it look easy.

[Hoov]

Originally Posted by bbailey423

My gosh...it was like the New England game last year. Garrett never even TRIED to get the 1st down. We get a 1st down and the game is over. Three straight dives by the RB into the OL and punt from the back of your endzone to a top flight PR. The articles were already being written about "the end of an era" But we somehow pulled this game out. You simply HAVE to try to win the game...not hope and pray that the clock runs out. I am sure Rob Ryan is standing on the sidelines thinking "how many times today do we have to win the game for you"? I was disgusted

after the romo fumble on the previous possession when the defense all but wraps up the game and then makes the goal line stand i did not want to see a single pass attmept. Without the special teams penalty i dont think cleveland would have scored.

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by bbailey423

I guess we should have just took 3 knees to avoid our backup RB....playing behind our backup OL....from fumbling the ball?

Or you could play the odds and try to get the 1st down on the ground while knowing you have a top 5 defense and the opponent actually needs a TD. Its not a crazy thought when you look at it objectively.

[Hoov]

Originally Posted by Diogenes

There certainly are fair, constructive criticisms to be had about Garrett. But when people overreach, like here, they don't help their cause. In another thread a poster actually put the Romo fumble on Garrett. Such extremes.

i wouldnt go that far, but i can say that i was thinking run it 3 times and kick the fg for a 7 point lead right before romo fumbled.

[tecolote]

Originally Posted by Diogenes

We didn't have the benefit of hindsight. We didn't know the punter was going to crap the bed. We didn't know the D was going to give up a TD and make it look easy.

I know and I agree, but when you punt from the one you have to expect something like that could happen, as a matter of fact, if we are talking about risk, I think the probability of that happening is higher than that of Tony throwing an int