FWST: With Free, Garrett says, 'It's a technical thing, it's a demeanor thing."

[Double Trouble]

Doug Free is a marginal player who parlayed a nice 5 or so week run at the end of 2009 into an 8 figure contract.

Kudos to Doug.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Zordon

what does he mean by "it's a demeanor thing"?

its another way of saying Free is suffering from lack of confidence and its showing. In under-sea world it would be equivalent of wounded dolphin flopping around with bunch of sharks in the area who have eaten recently.

[FiveRings]

Rewatching the game he just looks lost, maybe getting moved to the right side did something to his confidence? Garrett should send him on a couple of pulls early to get his game going.

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by Zordon

what does he mean by "it's a demeanor thing"?

I don't know for sure but I took it as he doesn't have enough 'attitude'. That's why I said put him in the pit and send them after him. You either quit or get mean. Can't really. Too late in the year for that sort of thing which I don't even know if they do anymore. Put I suspect he needs more fight in him. Besides the technique thing.

[Zimmy Lives]

Originally Posted by Hostile

If you look beaten, they come after you that much harder. You have to maintain composure at all times. They will take any edge you give them.

Very true. Free has bad body language and defensive players feed off of it. Same thing happened to DaBears o-line last night.

Free lacks confidence and he needs to find it quick or he will be out of a job next season. He reminds me a lot of Kevin Gogan: he was terrible RT. Maybe he would make a better guard.

[RXP]

Originally Posted by Zordon

what does he mean by "it's a demeanor thing"?

If your not the most talented guy in the world, then you need to play tackle with a mean streak. Marc Columbo was a perfect example. Free and Columbo are essentially the same guy, but Columbo was nasty. And that nastiness kept him in the league until his body finally failed him.

What you rally want is talent AND a mean streak, like Erik Williams. But they are tough to find.

Free has neither the talent nor the attitude.

[Bluestang]

I have project for you guys if you are willing...

Count how many times the OL will initiate a double team during pass protection.

The keyword is initiate and not hold it...as in two lineman will punch a guy and then one will maintain the rest of the block and the other will come off and look for another defender.

Sometimes it's the details, or maybe lack of attention to detail?

[jobberone]

Kinda hard to get a dble team on a wide DE quickly. Teams are doing a lot of stunting on us and that seems to be creating a lot of confusion. We are also letting too many blitzers come in untouched or minimally blocked.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by jobberone

Kinda hard to get a dble team on a wide DE quickly. Teams are doing a lot of stunting on us and that seems to be creating a lot of confusion. We are also letting too many blitzers come in untouched or minimally blocked.

We had 2 new faces on the OL, and 1 playing a position that hadn't played since more than a year ago. The Browns ran stunts to test how cohesive the line would be with the new changes. It's what any DC coach would do when they see so much change on the OL from an opposing team.

Also of those 7 sacks, 2 of them were because Dunbar failed to block his assignment because he didn't see the blitz. The 1st time he didn't block the #53 up the middle at all (BOB blocking) and then the second time on a corner blitz he ran off into a route without checking to see if there was a blitzer.

Another one came on Felix Jones also failing to see the blitz on play action pass. If the RB sees a free blitzer he doesn't go through with the fake and blocks the free rusher. That didn't happen and Romo was clearly upset with Jones on the play.

Pass protection success involves the running backs and sometimes the WRs.

KO ran a route too far that caused Romo to double pump his throw and hold onto the ball. This was on a 1st and 10 and KO is trying to run his route past the sticks...on a 1st and 10?

That's 4 sacks caused by people not playing along the OL. That's why you have to evaluate the team as in all 11 on the field and the play design.

[Tennione72]

He suffers from lack of Colombo

[CyberB0b]

Free didn't just get beat by the bullrush, he let a guy run right around him untouched.

[FiveRings]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

I have project for you guys if you are willing...

Count how many times the OL will initiate a double team during pass protection.

The keyword is initiate and not hold it...as in two lineman will punch a guy and then one will maintain the rest of the block and the other will come off and look for another defender.

Sometimes it's the details, or maybe lack of attention to detail?

What's your point? It's not like the guy that helps then comes off is lazy, they can punch and then look to another defender for a number of reasons

[wileedog]

Originally Posted by FiveRings

Rewatching the game he just looks lost, maybe getting moved to the right side did something to his confidence?

I think it has more to do with being beaten like a rented mule for a year and half.

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by RXP

If your not the most talented guy in the world, then you need to play tackle with a mean streak. Marc Columbo was a perfect example. Free and Columbo are essentially the same guy, but Columbo was nasty. And that nastiness kept him in the league until his body finally failed him.

What you rally want is talent AND a mean streak, like Erik Williams. But they are tough to find.

Free has neither the talent nor the attitude.

i miss columbo. you are right, if free is lacking talent then he needs to at least make up for it with tough, physical play. at times it looks like he's scared of contact.

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

We had 2 new faces on the OL, and 1 playing a position that hadn't played since more than a year ago. The Browns ran stunts to test how cohesive the line would be with the new changes. It's what any DC coach would do when they see so much change on the OL from an opposing team.

Also of those 7 sacks, 2 of them were because Dunbar failed to block his assignment because he didn't see the blitz. The 1st time he didn't block the #53 up the middle at all (BOB blocking) and then the second time on a corner blitz he ran off into a route without checking to see if there was a blitzer.

Another one came on Felix Jones also failing to see the blitz on play action pass. If the RB sees a free blitzer he doesn't go through with the fake and blocks the free rusher. That didn't happen and Romo was clearly upset with Jones on the play.

Pass protection success involves the running backs and sometimes the WRs.

[View Full Quote]KO ran a route too far that caused Romo to double pump his throw and hold onto the ball. This was on a 1st and 10 and KO is trying to run his route past the sticks...on a 1st and 10?

That's 4 sacks caused by people not playing along the OL. That's why you have to evaluate the team as in all 11 on the field and the play design.

Still haven't seen any film but I trust you. But regardless of Sunday's game teams have been stunting us all year and we haven't done the best job of it although at times not too bad. It doesn't surprise me for the RBs to miss the blitz esp Dunbar. Maybe Jones some.

We seem to leak in different areas almost every week although there have been some constant strengths and weaknesses relatively speaking.