Where is Arkin? - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

burmafrd · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by stasheroo

It seems clear that they need some scouts who can find offensive linemen because as it stands now, they do not have them.

A recent 'kick in the pants', the Browns drafted Mitchell Schwartz - who the Cowboys' 'braintrust graded as a late round pick - in round 2 and the rookie has helped solidify the right side of their line.

The most recent of many 'under-estmates' made by the Cowboys' scouting department.

I have heard that as regards O line the boys usually have the prospects graded a full round lower then any other team. Has been that way for years. Yet no change. Typical of a Jerruh run team.

Alexander · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

Ron Leary was supposed to be a 3rd round pick.

Is he still on the practice squad?

I completely forgot about our eighth round draft choice Jerry Jones was just beaming about the day after the draft.

Alexander · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by burmafrd

I have heard that as regards O line the boys usually have the prospects graded a full round lower then any other team. Has been that way for years. Yet no change. Typical of a Jerruh run team.

They had Anthony Davis of the 49ers with a third round grade. Rodger Saffold as well. Edwin Veldheer of the Raiders who has a future was tabbed for the sixth round.

Ah.

Memories.

TheCoolFan · 11-20-2012

Just another Robert Brewster...nothing to see here. He'll go away quietly by next year, if not already

Oh_Canada · 11-20-2012

Teams miss on guys all the time, let's not pretend Dallas is the only team to do so.
Wonder how many bad picks the Browns have made over the years compared to the "hit" on Schwartz??

Zordon · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Oh_Canada

Teams miss on guys all the time, let's not pretend Dallas is the only team to do so.
Wonder how many bad picks the Browns have made over the years compared to the "hit" on Schwartz??

you're right. the browns stink, so we should be able to stink in peace too.

burmafrd · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Oh_Canada

Teams miss on guys all the time, let's not pretend Dallas is the only team to do so.
Wonder how many bad picks the Browns have made over the years compared to the "hit" on Schwartz??

yeah but to stink so consistently on one position screams institutional stupidity

junk · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Alexander

They had Anthony Davis of the 49ers with a third round grade. Rodger Saffold as well. Edwin Veldheer of the Raiders who has a future was tabbed for the sixth round.

Ah.

Memories.

This team is notoriously bad at drafting OL.

There are positions they draft well though....ILB and CB for instance, maybe TE. I almost wonder if that plays into their ranking. They stink at evaluating OL, they know it and, as a result, they subconsciously rank those guys lower and the positions they feel comfortable with higher.

A good GM would force that issue and challenge those rankings, but Dallas doesn't have that. He should also be bringing in new scouts if those employed aren't getting the job done. That might disrupt the wonderful group dynamic they have going on there in the front office though.

Risen Star · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

Ron Leary was supposed to be a 3rd round pick.

Arkin was a diamond in the rough.

Brewster was, uh, a nice guy?

We can go on and on and on. The team doesn't invest high picks in interior lineman because they feel they can find trash in the later rounds and coach 'em into diamonds. This is one of the biggest problems with the franchise. This garbage-shopping philosophy has really held us back.

But when we feel we need some cornerbacks, we shop on Rodeo Dr.

Can't win that way.

Risen Star · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Alexander

They had Anthony Davis of the 49ers with a third round grade. Rodger Saffold as well. Edwin Veldheer of the Raiders who has a future was tabbed for the sixth round.

Ah.

Memories.

What is the deal with our scouting along the OL? Have we even made any changes with it? It's absolutely terrible. Moreso than any other position on the field. We just can not evaluate offensive linemen.

Kangaroo · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by rocboy22

I totally understand your point, but they CAN get on the field here, while Arkin can't even dress. I am not saying I am satisfied with UDFAs all over the line, I was just saying that it seems we can't draft a mid-late rounder and ever have them even make it to the field, but our UDFAs can. Total waste of draft picks.

Costa is in his 3rd year and last year he was forced into action as a 2nd year guy and showed at times he needed more seasoning which is why you guys dogged him so hard.

People are unreal the NFL is litter with linemen that becomes starters that do not even see the field until year 3.

So much hyberbole BS is all I see.

I agree if Arkin is not good enough to see the field next year then fine cut him in summer camp but to act like guys can not get better and contribute next year is smoking crack. Not every one hits the field ready to play in the NFL their first two years in.