Cowboy coaches judgment of talent!

[big dog cowboy]

Beasley catches a couple of passes and suddenly he is the greatest thing ever that we need yet another bash the coaches thread?

[ScipioCowboy]

It's not that Jerry hasn't found any talent. It's that Jerry hasn't found enough talent.

[Vanilla2]

I don't get the infatuation with beasly.

IMO Harris will end up being the third WR the team needs and beasly will be a change up slot guy next season. If he even makes the final roster.

And just cuz the guys little it doesn't make him welker who I feel is a product of the system he's in.

And isn't ammendola always hurt?

[rags747]

Come on guys, you really dont believe that Jerry is picking the talent do u ? Jerry has final approval on talent acquisition as he has said many times. His scouts are the main determiners, Jason makes it known in which direction he wants to go and Jerry is there as an integral part of the whole puzzle. But to say that Jerry is making all of the decisions on who is drafted is just nuts.

A couple of more OL between FA and next years draft + a DE that can pressure and as Jerry would say the arrow will be pointed up. We have a lot of new talent that we have been adding the past couple of years, just a few more key pieces and we can compete with anyone. This year unfortunately I think will come to an end sooner than we want due to our way underperforming OL, it will be the dagger in our backs as it has been already.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

But I thought all the personnel moves were the result of great Jason Garrett moving towards a more talented roster...

Garrett's job isn't acquiring talent. It is finding the best roster based on who is here. He can cut guys but he doesn't sign free agents or scout prospects

[Bigdog24]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

It's not that Jerry hasn't found any talent. It's that Jerry hasn't found enough talent.

BINGO we have a winner.

[jterrell]

no offense but fans are not very smart about football.

MILES: miles had chances many times to win more playing time but kept pulling up lame. when he finally did get in the game he made huge things happen.

but how long exactly has it been since he routinely did that?


COLE: cole beasley is a nice story and i love the fact he is a local kid. but his tiny. he is a rookie and he is doing well to be ON the team. asking him to play a lot of downs would be very bad.

KO: ogletree has been a scrub but he is an experienced scrub that may well have won us the game week 1.

ROMO:sean payton was who "found" tony romo. he played at his alma mater.

bp correctly identified he was probably a better player than the scrubs higher on the depth chart so he kept and developed him, then handed him the starting job. BUT he also went out and hired his ex-QB buddies that wer eon the life support to start over Romo.

Coaches in general are loathe to trust the unknown. They will ride with experience over potential unless that potential is making plays. Young guys tend to make too many bad plays that can get you beat. For instance watch Dunbar try to block.... I think just about everyone would rather have Dunbar run the ball over Felix but block? Give me Felix every time. At least this year.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by Vanilla2

I don't get the infatuation with beasly.

IMO Harris will end up being the third WR the team needs and beasly will be a change up slot guy next season. If he even makes the final roster.

And just cuz the guys little it doesn't make him welker who I feel is a product of the system he's in.

And isn't ammendola always hurt?

Wes Welker is short, like Cole, but he was a HS running back in Oklahoma and carries close to 200 pounds, largely in his thighs. He is actually fairly thick of body, hard to tackle and tough as nails. (YES, I know they list him at 185). He was well over that at Tech and probably still is.

Danny Amendola, who was Welker's roommate at Tech, has a totally different build. He is just under 6' and much thinner. He isn't a quickness and agility guy though he did develop some of that that working out with Welker. He is a good route runner and has solid overall speed to go with really excellent hands.

Cole Beasley is a football IQ guy who completely lacks NFL measurables. He was a high school QB. He is 5'8" and 177. That is amongst the smallest WRs in the NFL. He may well follow Welker and Amendola to making a solid NFL career but like those two before him he'll probably need a couple seasons to add muscle mass and NFL know-how.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by jterrell

Coaches in general are loathe to trust the unknown. They will ride with experience over potential unless that potential is making plays. Young guys tend to make too many bad plays that can get you beat. For instance watch Dunbar try to block.... I think just about everyone would rather have Dunbar run the ball over Felix but block? Give me Felix every time. At least this year.

This is important. For a coach it is all about being able to count on a guy to make the correct play. It is impossible to call plays and manage a game when you have no confidence that a player can do everything he needs to. Beasley might look good when the ball is thrown his way, but we need WR to block in the running game, run routes that clear space for other receivers, etc.

[KB1122]

Yes! How can the coaches ignore the small rookie UDFA with two NFL catches! What are they thinking?! Why, it's a sign of their incompetence!

[jack2]

The thing is that we don't know about beasley, we don't know if he can play un the nfl, if he can hold up with his size (desean jackson weighs 170 lbs), but we do know that ogletree is not reliable, drops some balls, runs the wrong routes!

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

Count Vinny testaverde and Drew Bledsoe among the greats, the latter essentially playing out his turn when there was no other choice to bench him. Parcells dragged out Bledsoe as far as he could. He also brought in Anthony Henry and Jacques reeves, two of the key pieces in us having to spend countless dollars in trying to get CBs that could actually cover in man. Our nose tackle during that era was Jason ferguson and it was only because of an injury that Ratliffe was made NT. And that too, was essentially because of Wade bringing him there.

Romo was Sean Payton and Bill Parcells brought in a bunch of aging veterans that were nowhere to be found was he actually left. And Miles Austin was returning punts and was forced into the line-up because of an injury to Romo. If Bill recognized his greatness, then why so late in drafting him and why not even attempting to have him play?

Let's not over-exxagerate what Parcells did here...

and who kept Tony when Jerruh was infatuated with Henson?
BP

[jack2]

If i remember correctly, they kept tony around after they cut the starting qb afteer testing positive for mj, if not romo would probably be plYing somewhere else, he was the 4th qb in TC

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

and who kept Tony when Jerruh was infatuated with Henson?
BP

What does that have to do with anything I posted? How does that in anyway absolve BP of filling this roster up with a bunch of veterans while he was here that needed to be replaced, because of age when he left? Just because he kept Romo, doesn't prove anything other than BP kept around a guy that was lighting it up in practice, but he still kept Henson and his aging QBs were starting before him.

BP is a great HoF coach, but like I said, let's not exxagerate what he did here.

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by rags747

Come on guys, you really dont believe that Jerry is picking the talent do u ? Jerry has final approval on talent acquisition as he has said many times. His scouts are the main determiners, Jason makes it known in which direction he wants to go and Jerry is there as an integral part of the whole puzzle. But to say that Jerry is making all of the decisions on who is drafted is just nuts.

A couple of more OL between FA and next years draft + a DE that can pressure and as Jerry would say the arrow will be pointed up. We have a lot of new talent that we have been adding the past couple of years, just a few more key pieces and we can compete with anyone. This year unfortunately I think will come to an end sooner than we want due to our way underperforming OL, it will be the dagger in our backs as it has been already.

They come to him with two choices. he picks one over the other.

Yes, he is picking the talent, because scouts can be wrong and bring him crapola to choose from.