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Old 11-26-2012   #16
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we all do.

the new place is like a monument to what is wrong with the organization.

Its like they took the stereotype of the jones family and how they do business and made it into a physical living entity.

I miss texas stadium more and more as time goes by. I am glad to have been one of the last people in there that night we lost to the ravens.
I passed through Irving last saturday for the first time in forever. It was just sad to be on Loop 12 and not seeing Texas Stadium. You can't even tell it used to be there.
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great post verdict

as i said in another post, the situation is "a snake oil salesman and a gullible fan base"

the cowboys dont need to win for jerry to make money so he has no incentive to change

as a fan, i dont think i was this disappointed even during the campo years becasue, i guess, my expectations were lower

i expected a lot from garrett but i realize that he is not the guy right now, maybe 5-7 years from now, but not right now
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Old 11-26-2012   #18
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I passed through Irving last saturday for the first time in forever. It was just sad to be on Loop 12 and not seeing Texas Stadium. You can't even tell it used to be there.
it sucks driving by there.

What a sad day.
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Old 11-26-2012   #19
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it sucks driving by there.

What a sad day.
Probably a happy day for Jerry. I'm surprised he didn't push the button himself.
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Old 11-26-2012   #20
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this specifically is the type of stuff i think about. it's sad to think about all the hours our GM puts into other things like that store, bringing college football games and boxing matches to his stadium, salvation army, etc...etc....all that time, what are other GMs doing with those hours?
Good point. I am sure he has a dummy GM do his GM duties for extra salary or something like that. I am losing interest in this team by a lot, I have been watching football since 95 and have seen the cowboys win 1 SB in 96. I feel bad for my nephew who roots for cowboys because of me and all he has seen is lousy team after lousy team.

Even though JG is way over his head, I still believe majority of the problem is with JJ and his approach. I am resigned to the fact that it may be another 10 years before he steps down and I don't know how long after that we will be respectable. I hope we won't become the cubs of the NFL in this century...
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Probably a happy day for Jerry. I'm surprised he didn't push the button himself.
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I am so sick and tired of being sick and tired. For the first time in my long tenure of being a Cowboys fan, I am seriously considering picking a new team to support. I'm still not sure if I can do that, but I am seriously considering it. The more I think on it, the more it make sense to do it.

Think about it. Back in the day, when your home team was actually fielded by players from home, it was understandable to be a fan of that team. But now the majority of the home team is fielded by guys from all over the world, so it really doesn't matter what team you like. Which is why it actually makes more sense to pick the team/player/coach that you enjoy watching the most. There is very little about the Cowboys game right now that is enjoyable if anything.

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I've just about got to that point as well.

I'm not going to watch a game just to watch a game when it's constantly a sloppy mess.
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Probably a happy day for Jerry. I'm surprised he didn't push the button himself.
He pushes that button every season. Ironically.....that vid is representative, literally, of what Jed has done to the Dallas Cowboys. I can't watch it.
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“That is one of the luxuries of my position as owner as well as the ultimate decision maker, general manager and president – I can do that and take the losses and come back for more,” Jones said.


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I was supposed to have a private tour/discussion about tickets with a senior sales consultant with the Dallas Cowboys today. I didn't go. I sent an email to the guy and told him I wouldn't invest that type of money until Jerry Jones steps down as GM. He replied and said I needed to hurry because they've sold 98% of their season tickets. Ok, then Why are you hounding me so hard? That obviously isn't true. I think the tickets sales are already on the decline.
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i was a season ticket holder at Texas Stadium and enjoyed games there.
i am a season ticket holder at Cowboys Stadium and I enjoy watching games there as well.
i hate the losing seasons but i really dont understand the complaints about the new stadium.
if the pro shop being busy bothers you on game day, just dont go near it.
good grief you have to make a pretty good effort to even get to it on game days, especially if you have already enterered the stadium unless your seats happen to be close to it.
i have been to most games this year and have yet to even see the Victoria's Secret store so why should it bother me ?

at Texas Stadium there was a pro shop too, it was always crowded on game days as were all the outside temporary game day pro shops set up in tents outside the stadium.

i am pretty focused when i get inside so maybe i am missing what it is that bothers some of you.
sure i wish the water and sodas were a little cheaper. food too, but hey its more convienient than going outside to the Walmart across the street when i get hungry or thirsty during the game.

as for the tours and stuff during the week ? doesnt bother me at all. I actually enjoy seeing the people all excited to see the place where the Boys play when I go to the pro shop or just pass by there.

winning cures everything. win some games and I am pretty sure a lot of the complaints will stop about the stadium.
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winning cures everything. win some games and I am pretty sure a lot of the complaints will stop about the stadium.
Yup.

And I bet our "stupid" fan base transforms back into the "smart" fan base over whom John Madden gushed in the 1990s.
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i feel sorry for fans like you who pay so much money to watch that team amongst thousands of the opposing teams fans every week. just curious how are your feelings about the stadium? don't you miss the coziness of texas stadium...a REAL football facility.
I've watched a Cowboy game standing over Randy Galloway's shoulder in the press box. I've had tickets at the 50 yard line.

And I have to agree. I feel sorry for anyone buying tickets or Cowboys merchandise. Sincerely...I really do.

Even if I was making 1 mil per year...I wouldn't play. Not. Worth. It. Not. Fun. Seriously this is no fun at all. Plus, I'd feel like a dupe, a fool and a tramp paying for this.

I won't pay anything related to the Cowboys...until and unless the Jones family sells out to another party.

It's foolishness to support this team anyway, under it's current ownership. This isn't entertaining anymore.
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I seriously want you to ask yourself, Is this fun? Does being a Cowboy fan make my life richer or more enjoyable? I'm asking myself these questions big-time.

I am very open to changing teams. I seriously might just ride Johnny Football and take my fandom wherever he lands. I bet it would be 10 times more fun than listening to Jerry try to finish a sentence as a 75 year-old alcoholic GM.

And if you think that things will be better under Stephen Jones.....you better seriously test your assumptions. He's poised to be a next-in-line billionaire owner slash part-time GM. Without the charisma.

Microsoft is dying. Fast. So are the Cowboys.
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I seriously want you to ask yourself, Is this fun? Does being a Cowboy fan make my life richer or more enjoyable? I'm asking myself these questions big-time.

I am very open to changing teams. I seriously might just ride Johnny Football and take my fandom wherever he lands. I bet it would be 10 times more fun than listening to Jerry try to finish a sentence as a 75 year-old alcoholic GM.

And if you think that things will be better under Stephen Jones.....you better seriously test your assumptions. He's poised to be a next-in-line billionaire owner slash part-time GM. Without the charisma.

Microsoft is dying. Fast. So are the Cowboys.
You are looking at it wrong.


Ive taken to viewing the Cowboys as a black comedy. America's best 53 man improvisation troupe.

I watch every game. If they win, cool. If not you better believe they are going to be entertaining you through the best improv comedy around. I still chuckle when I think about Clownshoes icing his own kicker.
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You are looking at it wrong.
Ive taken to viewing the Cowboys as a black comedy.
Well played. If I could get myself to enjoy black comedy on a football field I might be "all in."
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