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coogrfan · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

Probably the offensive line excuse.

They just appeared from no where, with no one on the coaching staff having any sort of responsibility for selecting this **** show or thinking this **** show could play.

In fairness, it's possible (probable?) that the decision to pretty much ignore the OL in favor of "fixing the D" came from Jerry.

CATCH17 · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Zimmy Lives

What does fear have to do with anything?

JG will keep his job because he is in the middle of a re-tooling process. Most of us with any reason predicted that the Cowboys were, at best, a 10-6 team. Others, calculating injuries and strength of schedule, predicted a more achievable 9-7.

Anyone who thought that this team was going to be significantly better was not being realistic. This team has the superstars but it lacks a solid foundation of core players. I think JG is moving, albeit slowly, in that direction.

Jerry would be the biggest fool in Texas if he dumps JG at the end of the season. It would be yet another example of his knee-jerk management which has been killing the Cowboys for the last 15 years.

If we had a coach that adjusted to his talent and not make players just adjust to his system than I'd be fine with keeping him another year.

I just can't stand watching, for example, catch and run receivers being forced to play like Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt.

I can't stand watching finesse linemen and 1 cut backs being used like they are the 90s Cowboys Oline and backs.

I hate how we always run out of heavy set formations from everywhere on the field.

I'm just not a fan of his philosophies.

jnday · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by coogrfan

In fairness, it's possible (probable?) that the decision to pretty much ignore the OL in favor of "fixing the D" came from Jerry.

There is no doubt that Garrett had a hand in this mess. Him and Jerry should share the blame and add Callahan to the mix as well. I think this is a group effort. The three of them actually thought this mess would work. That gamble ruined the season.

Bluestang · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by CATCH17

If we had a coach that adjusted to his talent and not make players just adjust to his system than I'd be fine with keeping him another year.

I just can't stand watching, for example, catch and run receivers being forced to play like Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt.

I can't stand watching finesse linemen and 1 cut backs being used like they are the 90s Cowboys Oline and backs.

I hate how we always run out of heavy set formations from everywhere on the field.

I'm just not a fan of his philosophies.

So remind the class how Dez Bryant scored his first TD?

Or how Beasley and Harris picked up yardage?

Catch and runs maybe?

More misinformation being spread around, some of you are worse than Jerry.

stasheroo · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by jnday

There is no doubt that Garrett had a hand in this mess. Him and Jerry should share the blame and add Callahan to the mix as well. I think this is a group effort. The three of them actually thought this mess would work. That gamble ruined the season.

"I'm Stash, and I approve this message"

CowboyMcCoy · 11-27-2012

Cue in the nostalgia.

CATCH17 · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

So remind the class how Dez Bryant scored his first TD?

Or how Beasley and Harris picked up yardage?

Catch and runs maybe?

More misinformation being spread around, some of you are worse than Jerry.

I don't remember all the details of Harris's big play but the Dez play was 100% improvised.

coogrfan · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by jnday

There is no doubt that Garrett had a hand in this mess. Him and Jerry should share the blame and add Callahan to the mix as well. I think this is a group effort. The three of them actually thought this mess would work. That gamble ruined the season.

I don't doubt that Garrett/Callahan/Ryan all had some input in setting the team's offseason priorities, but come on...

This team isn't run as a triumvirate of equals. At the end of the day Jerry is going to do what Jerry wants to do, the advice or opinions of others be damned. It's been that way for 16 years now; to pretend otherwise is naive at best.

Zimmy Lives · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by CATCH17

If we had a coach that adjusted to his talent and not make players just adjust to his system than I'd be fine with keeping him another year.

I just can't stand watching, for example, catch and run receivers being forced to play like Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt.

I can't stand watching finesse linemen and 1 cut backs being used like they are the 90s Cowboys Oline and backs.

I hate how we always run out of heavy set formations from everywhere on the field.

I'm just not a fan of his philosophies.

I hear you.

My problem is: When is Jerry going to allow his coach to build his team and run his system which may actually work? This team was a mess when JG took over and most expected things to get worse before they got better.

Yes, marquis players like Witten and Ware maybe have to be sacrificed but isn't that the price of progress? JG has kept this team competitive and talent does appear to be building. If Jerry pulls the rug out from under him now then it will another two years wasted for nothing.

I want to see what JG can do with his guys and his system before I give up on him as a coach. As much as I agree with you concerning his philosophies, I am willing to wait and see if he can deliver long term.

a_minimalist · 11-27-2012

I'm excited about it. I like watching you guys squirm.

17yearsandcounting · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Zimmy Lives

I hear you.

My problem is: When is Jerry going to allow his coach to build his team and run his system which may actually work? This team was a mess when JG took over and most expected things to get worse before they got better.

Yes, marquis players like Witten and Ware maybe have to be sacrificed but isn't that the price of progress? JG has kept this team competitive and talent does appear to be building. If Jerry pulls the rug out from under him now then it will another two years wasted for nothing.

I want to see what JG can do with his guys and his system before I give up on him as a coach. As much as I agree with you concerning his philosophies, I am willing to wait and see if he can deliver long term.

He took over a team that won its first playoff game in 15 years about 6 months earlier. Some mess.

a_minimalist · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

He took over a team that won its first playoff game in 15 years about 6 months earlier. Some mess.

Just curious, what was the record of this "playoff team" when he took over?

fifaguy · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by CATCH17

Anyone else scared that Jason may get his job saved because of all the injuries we have recently have?

Last year it was the no offseason excuse and now I think this year he'll get the injuries excuse.

I really hope Jerry isn't sitting back and just waiting to drop this excuse on our fan base.

Absolutely not. Miss the playoffs and he's gone. A season ending meltdown at RFK will seal the deal. We won't get Payton but there are other options.

Coy · 11-27-2012

My sig says it all.

Aven8 · 11-27-2012

I'm sorry but I want a new regime. I did at one point wanted a new OC to call plays with JG still HC, but now that has changed.

It's not only the offense that is a mess, it's the team. 3 times this year we've ran out only 10 on ST's, same can be said for the Defense. This is a poorly coached football team and the HC's responsibility for all of it.

It's not just the offense that has screwed up on his watch, quit letting him off the hook!