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Old 12-01-2012   #1
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Default CBS Sports Rang/Brugler 1st round projections 11/28/12....

I'm going to post each guy's projected first round up until the point of the Cowboys' pick, which they project to be 16th overall. Tell me which one you prefer, if either is acceptable.

Click on the links for the full 1st round mock as well as commentary. I will post the commentary for the Cowboys' pick from each guy.

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1. Kansas City - Geno Smith QB West Virginia
2. Jacksonville - Bjoern Werner DE Florida St.
3. Oakland - Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M
4. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel T Texas A&M
5. Cleveland - Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia

6. Carolina - Star Lotulelei DT Utah
7. Buffalo - Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
8. Detroit - Sam Montgomery DE LSU
9. Arizona - Matt Barkley QB USC
10. San Diego - Jake Matthews T Texas A&M

11. N.Y. Jets - Barkevious Mingo DE LSU
12. Tennessee - Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia
13. St. Louis - Taylor Lewan T Michigan
14. Miami - Keenan Allen WR California
15. St. Louis (Washington) - Chance Warmack G Alabama

16. Dallas - Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio St.
Since owner Jerry Jones made himself the Cowboys' primary draft-day decision-maker, Dallas has increasingly gambled on high upside prospects with immediate impact ability. Hankins, shockingly athletic at 6-3, 320 pounds, has shown the ability to hold up nicely at nose guard, as well as at defensive end. That versatility, along with his terrific potential, could make him very appealing should his bouts with inconsistency cause the junior to slip lower than perhaps he should on draft day.

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1. Kansas City - Geno Smith QB West Virginia
2. Jacksonville - Barkevious Mingo DE LSU
3. Oakland - Bjoern Werner DE Florida St.
4. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel T Texas A&M
5. Cleveland - Dee Milliner CB Alabama

6. Carolina - Star Lotulelei DT Utah
7. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan T Michigan
8. Detroit -Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
9. Arizona - Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M
10. San Diego - Jake Matthews T Texas A&M

11. N.Y. Jets - Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia
12. Tennessee - Sam Montgomery DE LSU
13. St. Louis - Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
14. Miami - Keenan Allen WR California
15. St. Louis (Washington) - Eric Reid S LSU

16. Dallas - Chance Warmack G Alabama
The interior of the Cowboys' offensive line has been an issue for a few seasons now and the band-aids at center and guard are wearing thin. Chance Warmack is one of the better guard prospects in recent memory and has Pro Bowl potential.

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I would prefer the Chance Womack pick! I am tired of watching Tony Romo running for his life and an anemic running game year in and year out! The Cowboys must rebuild the OL with some Big Nasties!:-)
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As much as I'd love to upgrade the DL, it just has to be Warmack.
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LOL

Cards drafting Matt Leinart 2.0
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I'd take either, maybe Jake Matthews.
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It's not just a Hankins or Warmack proposition though. Don't forget the players still on the board when those picks were made.

I thought one interesting thing was both guys had two Aggie OTs going in the top 10. When was the last time one school did that?

3 top 10 picks overall too. Not too shabby.

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I would trade back 2 times and still have a late late 1st round pick. We could pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick. Picking this late I believe the FO would feel justified in selecting a Olineman and there should be great value at that time for one.

So, in summary, we would still select in the first round--late, and gain two additional picks in the early rounds--2 & 3. That would, if FO handles it correctly, be huge in addressing our needs. They might even pick a QB, have no idea who, with one of those early round picks
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I'd take either, maybe Jake Matthews.
Matthews is gone already in both mocks.

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I'd be ok with either one but I'd definately rather have the G more. But I think both are positions of need and could come in right away and help make the team better.
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It's not just a Hankins or Warmack proposition though. Don't forget the players still on the board when those picks were made.

I thought one interesting thing was both guys had two Aggie OTs going in the top 10. When was the last time one school did that?

3 top 10 picks overall too. Not too shabby.
Jonathan Cooper and Dallas Thomas are still on the board. I would prefer to trade down and get one of them in the twenties. They are both better fits in the Zone Blocking Scheme than Warmack, IMO.

I think an extra 2nd or 3rd in this years draft would be very valuable.

Sheldon Richardson might be a better addition to the Cowboys DL than Hankins because, IMO, he is a more disruptive pass-rusher.


Matthews at #10? That seems really high.

Reid at #15?

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I would trade back 2 times and still have a late late 1st round pick. We could pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick. Picking this late I believe the FO would feel justified in selecting a Olineman and there should be great value at that time for one.

So, in summary, we would still select in the first round--late, and gain two additional picks in the early rounds--2 & 3. That would, if FO handles it correctly, be huge in addressing our needs. They might even pick a QB, have no idea who, with one of those early round picks
This is a great idea if you want to draft a G or C.

I wonder if they would consider drafting a top OT and move Free to G.
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This is fun.

Still.... 100% count on the draft not falling very, very different than this though. Maybe 25-40% of those top 20 projected in Dec will go in the top 20 in April...it is always like that.

In any case, I like they have us getting the big fellas.
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This is a great idea if you want to draft a G or C.

I wonder if they would consider drafting a top OT and move Free to G.
I don't know. We have to be careful focusing on need in the draft. I don't want to see the Cowboys trade out of better talent to fill pressing needs. You look back three years later and wonder why you didn't take that all pro DL when you had the chance. Oh yeah, we really needed a G. How's he doing anyway? Last I heard he was on the Lions' practice squad.

As tempting as it is, avoid this OL or bust mentality in the draft. Stack your board and stick to it. If a trade down represents more value than the player at our spot, do it. But don't do it simply to better position yourself to fill a need.

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LOL at Geno going first. There is not a QB that I can see this year that should go higher then 15th at best. Honestly not a QB I would pick in the first round this year.


If we cannot get a top tier OLB/DE, then trade back and pick up a xtra second and third and get a C and a G.


I think that Ryan thinks Church can get it done at Safety; so realistically the D should be OK except for OLB as regards Spencer; he will almost certainly get offered too much for us to match.

The young guys we have on the D line are just going to have to be enough this coming year; hopefully with much better results then the young guys on the O line the last two years.

O line is the need. And with the cap situation as it is I doubt we can get much that is any good in FA. So it will have to be the draft.
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I don't know. We have to be careful focusing on need in the draft. I don't want to see the Cowboys trade out of better talent to fill pressing needs. You look back three years later and wonder why you didn't take that all pro DL when you had the chance. Oh yeah, we really needed a G. How's he doing anyway? Last I heard he was on the Lions' practice squad.

As tempting as it is, avoid this OL or bust mentality in the draft. Stack your board and stick to it. If a trade down represents more value than the player at our spot, do it. But don't do it simply to better position yourself to fill a need.
I think you should in general always draft like this however you have to inject need into the picture unless you already have a lot of talent and depth on the team. When it's your turn you look at what's available on your board and unless there is clearly enough difference in talent then you can generally find a player that fills a position of need. They just need to be in the top tier of players available.

For OL you have to draft to your system and talent.
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