This is why we keep Spencer

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

Dead money is irrelevant if you realize that new deals are always super cap friendly in the first two years. A 5 year deal for 45 mill might cost us about 3 mill in cap space for 2013. That'd be a huge savings from what he is costing against the cap now (around 8.5 mill).

There simply is no reasonable argument that we can't afford him.

Those who argue otherwise are simply bad with arithmetic.

how about the fact that he will not be worth what we would have to pay him?

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by silver

can we tag him again?

$8.8 million this year

we tag him again it is 120%

which is $10.6 million

BAD IDEA

[yentl911]

I love this forum. So many people talked trash about this guy from day one and now most people are worried about getting him resigned. He is our best Defensive player right now - better than Ware, yes I said it - and he is going to walk, and get Paid. He is going to go somewhere else and be a stud for several more years. He has always been real solid but overlooked due to Ware. Spencer does the dirty work and is about to get compensated for his efforts - large.

[silver]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

$8.8 million this year

we tag him again it is 120%

which is $10.6 million

BAD IDEA

not as bad as signing him to a long term deal with guaranteed money based on 1 productive year. See Doug Free for reference. I'd tag him if it doesnt break the bank. Keep him hungry for one more run.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

how about the fact that he will not be worth what we would have to pay him?

He's been our best defender this year and one of the best OLB in the league.

He's certainly worth the 9 or 10 mill a year he will get. Again, that presumes you understand that like most deals he's going to be backloaded and the "real" contract is going to be more like 3 years at 24 mill

But I do know you are poor with arithmetic

[Hoofbite]

Franchise tag and trade.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by silver

not as bad as signing him to a long term deal with guaranteed money based on 1 productive year. See Doug Free for reference. I'd tag him if it doesnt break the bank. Keep him hungry for one more run.

If we tag him we are using about 7 mill more cap space than we need to next year. Spencer had three very good years leading up to this year. That's why he got the tag in the first place.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Originally Posted by FiveRings

Look at the rest of his years as a Cowboy, aka, his NON CONTRACT years, don't think you can find numbers that justify signing him for a lot and long term. If you can, I'll gladly eat my words.

Think it was 2010 when he had the second most QB pressures in the league, hence the nickname almost anthony.

[Future]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Spencer was the best defender on the field for the Cowboys Sunday night (with Brent a close second).

It's going to be hard losing him.

He's been our best defensive player several times this season.

I wouldn't mind giving him 9 mil a year, it's a contract that's going to keep him until he's 34 or 35 that scares me. To avoid that, I wouldn't mind trying something like 3 year/30 mil so that we aren't paying him after his production slides off entirely.

Also, let me say that I don't think he's having a great year because it's his contract year. I think he's reached the point in his career where the fundamentals are habit and he can just play, allowing his athleticism to take over. He had a great year in 09 and was excellent last year as well. How long he can play at a high level...who knows. But he's a guy we can't let go imo.

[Idgit]

We can afford him if we want him. At least you guys get points for being stubborn after you've been proven wrong about the guy.

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by Idgit

We can afford him if we want him. At least you guys get points for being stubborn after you've been proven wrong about the guy.

Any team can afford any player if they "want". That' doesn't mean there isn't a price at which it becomes a foolish business decision.

And as far as proven wrong? In what regard? The majority of the talking points were about him not being worth the cap hit of the franchise tag. He wasn't and still isn't. Has he made the hit a little less egregious by stepping his game up? Absolutely he has.

Kind of interesting.

Guy has the best year of his career and suddenly all the production he wasn't providing prior to that year is suddenly there?

[JBell523]

I doubt he's been signficantly better this year than in year's past.

Fans are finally accepting the fact that he's not a double digit sack guy, and realizing how valuable he is in other areas. He's also been pimped quite a bit by analysts this year.

[Joshmil53]

Originally Posted by JBell523

I doubt he's been signficantly better this year than in year's past.

Fans are finally accepting the fact that he's not a double digit sack guy, and realizing how valuable he is in other areas. He's also been pimped quite a bit by analysts this year.

Exactly, he's not a flashly NFL.com stat guy, but it's his other stats that are insanely good.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

Guy has the best year of his career and suddenly all the production he wasn't providing prior to that year is suddenly there?

Or else...and bear with me a bit...everyone, including his fellow players and opposing coaches, and his own coaches, under different coordinators, who've been saying he's a very good player all these years were actually, gulp, right about him all along. Shocking to contemplate, but the guy's always been a good player, and we're lucky to have him.

[Joshmil53]

PFF on their NFC pro bowl has Spencer in instead of Ware.

"Can I really sub out DeMarcus Ware for Anthony Spencer? Sure Ware has more pressure, but he has also had more opportunities to do it. When I consider how exceptional Spencer has been in the run game I can live with it."