Has Dallas Gotten Any Better?

[Hook'em#11]

Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

On a side note, we should have beaten Washington.

They should of beat NYG and Baltimore and the Falcons IMO..

THE biggest problem with this team is themselves shooting themselves in the foot. With either penalties, key missed assignments.

Seriously, the other teams aren't doing that much. I know that is homeristic, and I don't care.

I don't think they have gotten better, they have gotten the injury bug no doubt. but, every team gets that. no excuse.

This team actually executes and is consistent.

They would be deep in the playoffs. But, not the case.

[Hoofbite]

Pinning hopes on the successes of other teams to come on top in the "against all odds" scenarios seems like an unreasonable course of action.

The comparisons to the Giants of last year are pretty flimsy at best. Getting beyond face value that the Giants were 6-6 at the same point the comparisons just fails to stand up.

When the Giants slumped last season, losing 4 straight games to hit their 6-6 rock bottom, they had just come off one of the most hellacious stretches in all of football.

San Francisco (8-1)
Philadelphia (3-6)
New Orleans (7-3)
Green Bay (11-0)

Top 3 teams in the conference in that stretch. The only game that wasn't a 1 score game was the game in New Orleans and they took Green Bay down to the last play of the game. Philly was crap but that's about it. Although, not sure just how crappy as they slaughtered Dallas just a few weeks prior to this game.

During Dallas' recent "run".....winning 3 of the last 4.

Philadelphia (3-6)
Cleveland (2-7)
Washington (4-6)
Philadelphia (3-8)

Not exactly comparable in any way.

Another large difference is that the 2011 Giants had 2 games against their primary competitor left and they only had 1 team to really worry about. Dallas has 2 teams to worry about and they only have 1 game against either of them.

I don't think Dallas has really improved all that much over the last month. The offense has gotten better but as others have said the defense has taken a step back.

I think the main reason Dallas is in the position they are in is because they have played 3 games against pretty poor teams. You can only play who is on your schedule and while it may be fortunate timing to hit those teams, the next 4 games are all against much better teams than the Eagles and Browns.

Dallas' defense should concern everyone. They're struggling and if they allow 30 spots from here on out, I don't think Dallas wins many of those games, if any.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Originally Posted by Hook'em#11

They should of beat NYG and Baltimore and the Falcons IMO..

THE biggest problem with this team is themselves shooting themselves in the foot. With either penalties, key missed assignments.

Seriously, the other teams aren't doing that much. I know that is homeristic, and I don't care.

I don't think they have gotten better, they have gotten the injury bug no doubt. but, every team gets that. no excuse.

This team actually executes and is consistent.

They would be deep in the playoffs. But, not the case.

Oh, I agree. We should have won those games and I think aside from shooting ourselves in the foot, we've been good. No doubt we could be much better than our record.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

Pinning hopes on the successes of other teams to come on top in the "against all odds" scenarios seems like an unreasonable course of action.

The comparisons to the Giants of last year are pretty flimsy at best. Getting beyond face value that the Giants were 6-6 at the same point the comparisons just fails to stand up.

When the Giants slumped last season, losing 4 straight games to hit their 6-6 rock bottom, they had just come off one of the most hellacious stretches in all of football.

San Francisco (8-1)
Philadelphia (3-6)
New Orleans (7-3)
Green Bay (11-0)

Top 3 teams in the conference in that stretch. The only game that wasn't a 1 score game was the game in New Orleans and they took Green Bay down to the last play of the game. Philly was crap but that's about it. Although, not sure just how crappy as they slaughtered Dallas just a few weeks prior to this game.

[View Full Quote]During Dallas' recent "run".....winning 3 of the last 4.

Philadelphia (3-6)
Cleveland (2-7)
Washington (4-6)
Philadelphia (3-8)

Not exactly comparable in any way.

Another large difference is that the 2011 Giants had 2 games against their primary competitor left and they only had 1 team to really worry about. Dallas has 2 teams to worry about and they only have 1 game against either of them.

I don't think Dallas has really improved all that much over the last month. The offense has gotten better but as others have said the defense has taken a step back.

I think the main reason Dallas is in the position they are in is because they have played 3 games against pretty poor teams. You can only play who is on your schedule and while it may be fortunate timing to hit those teams, the next 4 games are all against much better teams than the Eagles and Browns.

Dallas' defense should concern everyone. They're struggling and if they allow 30 spots from here on out, I don't think Dallas wins many of those games, if any.

Which is why I posed the question. I thought about these things, too. I think the only real indicator is what the future holds.

[kevm3]

The defense actually looks improved when we have all of our talent in there. our offense looks atrocious until we go until into no-huddle, which causes it to look like a completely different team.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Originally Posted by kevm3

The defense actually looks improved when we have all of our talent in there. our offense looks atrocious until we go until into no-huddle, which causes it to look like a completely different team.

I agree.

[rwalters31]

Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

You know how it goes. Look no further than the Giants who turned it on late in the season to make the playoffs, to win the Super Bowl. I'm trying to take a step back and see if I can find some positives about this team. I can. Murray is playing great, we have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in Romo, Dez Bryant is really coming on, Jason Witten is a beast amongst boys, the secondary looks outstanding (minus a few INT drops), our LBs are stepping up in place of the injured and guys like Dwayne Harris and Beasley are coming along like we'd hoped. Spencer is playing well, we know what Ware can do, etc.

Can we do what the Giants did not too long ago?

It's a simple question. Even with our green coach, do you think we've gotten good enough to make a solid run for the playoffs? I'm not asking how well you think we'll do in the playoffs. I'm asking how much better we are. Also, I'm not a Garrett fan, but I do hope he has learned from his mistakes.
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In your opinion, how much better have we gotten in spite of not having great leadership from the top?

Well, lets see Romo is 3th in passing; Dez Bryant is tenth in receiving; DeMarcus Ware is 7th in Sacks; Dallas is 2nd in passing; Dallas is 7th in Offense; and 11th in defense. This all adds up to a 6 - 6 team and 3th in our division. I would say the Cowboys are one dimensional and inconsistent in the other parts of the game. Now, having said that are we getting better at penalties and turnovers? that killed us during the first part of the year. On this point I do see a slight improvement.

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by yentl911

We watched two different games. Our D missed simple coverage assignments and they were running the ball down our throats. We had no answer for their attack. They had more intensity and the game was really over by the middle of the 2nd quarter. That was an *** kicking any way you look at it. Any time you give up four TDs in one quarter and they were all offensive scores that is getting your *** kicked where I come from.

Yup, you are dead on. How could anyone see otherwise in that game? The Redskins beat us down.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Originally Posted by ufcrules1

Yup, you are dead on. How could anyone see otherwise in that game? The Redskins beat us down.

Too funny. I'm convinced you must have been drinking.

[Hook'em#11]

Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

Oh, I agree. We should have won those games and I think aside from shooting ourselves in the foot, we've been good. No doubt we could be much better than our record.

Agreed.

That is why this year has been really, really frustrating.

[anj113]

Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

You know how it goes. Look no further than the Giants who turned it on late in the season to make the playoffs, to win the Super Bowl. I'm trying to take a step back and see if I can find some positives about this team. I can. Murray is playing great, we have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in Romo, Dez Bryant is really coming on, Jason Witten is a beast amongst boys, the secondary looks outstanding (minus a few INT drops), our LBs are stepping up in place of the injured and guys like Dwayne Harris and Beasley are coming along like we'd hoped. Spencer is playing well, we know what Ware can do, etc.

Can we do what the Giants did not too long ago?

[View Full Quote]It's a simple question. Even with our green coach, do you think we've gotten good enough to make a solid run for the playoffs? I'm not asking how well you think we'll do in the playoffs. I'm asking how much better we are. Also, I'm not a Garrett fan, but I do hope he has learned from his mistakes.


In your opinion, how much better have we gotten in spite of not having great leadership from the top?

our secondary looks outstanding? REALLY?

[anj113]

There is NO run, this team HAS never shown it has a run in them... Where do you people think this is a possibilty, based on what??

[IheartRomo]

This team is only slightly better, if at all, than the 2010 installment. We've got a long way to go to get back to serious contention. Maybe start with something better than your average Big 12 line?

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by IheartRomo

This team is only slightly better, if at all, than the 2010 installment. We've got a long way to go to get back to serious contention. Maybe start with something better than your average Big 12 line?

This team would be one of the hottest in the NFC right now if we hadn't dropped so many defensive starters. Injuries are part of the game--and our betray our limited depth--but I don't think we're seeing evidence that we're all that far off. If we had our interior defense, we'd finally see the team play with a lead. When that happens, we're going to look a lot better quickly.

It took the offense forever to jell, and part of that's the limitations we've had at C and in the running game. The other part was unexpected trouble with the OTs. But it's night and day how well we're able to play with Murray in the lineup and Dez focussing. Both of those guys can be game breakers.

[Venger]

SOME players have shown better in recent weeks. Dez has put together a very nice stretch, for instance, and Spencer has had some nice game efforts as well. But you cannot look at the last few games and see the pitiful starts and think we are "better" per se.