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12-09-2012
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
That's good.. Felix has 5 of them this season so far. Where's his praise? All i heard when Murray was out was that Felix and his 3 or 4 ypc weren't good enough, he wasn't scoring enough, he was a glass man (even though HE was the one playing through injuries while Murray was out half the year with a sprained foot, lol), etc, etc..
Its a double standard, is all im saying.
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I see where you're coming from but and for what it's worth I'm pretty sure Rat is now glassman. Anyway I too think they're two solid backs but like I said before where Demarco takes the edge is his ability to keep a play alive, find different holes and bump runs outside.
Things like that can get your offense on a roll, but to mock Murray's production/toughness is unfair because it 's pretty evident watching him run that he's about 50%
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12-09-2012
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#17
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Originally Posted by FiveRings
I see where you're coming from but and for what it's worth I'm pretty sure Rat is now glassman. Anyway I too think they're two solid backs but like I said before where Demarco takes the edge is his ability to keep a play alive, find different holes and bump runs outside.
Things like that can get your offense on a roll, but to mock Murray's production/toughness is unfair because it 's pretty evident watching him run that he's about 50%
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Where was i mocking Murray's production or toughness?
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12-09-2012
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#18
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Where was i mocking Murray's production or toughness?
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Not mocking but putting Felix's efforts over his, I read that Murray thought his season was going to end due to the foot injury.
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12-09-2012
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Originally Posted by FiveRings
Not mocking but putting Felix's efforts over his, I read that Murray thought his season was going to end due to the foot injury.
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Wasn't my intent.. i won't claim to know how tough any Cowboys player is one way or the other. The only point was to say Felix has been playing through injuries the past two years while Murray has missed considerable time this year. I don't think either should be referred to as "glassmen" though.. and i agree both are good backs. Murray has the potential to be very good if he can stay on the field.
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12-09-2012
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#20
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Felix jones fans lOlololol
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12-09-2012
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I think the reason people call DeMarco Murray a difference maker is because Felix doesn't rush for all the hypothetical yardage.
Last week they put up the numbers in games when Murray is in and out. They were pretty different.
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12-09-2012
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Other teams defenses actually bit on the play action when Murray is in there.
Murray also rarely loses yards and often makes a number of yards after first and even second contact. He bounces outside off large piles - as he has above average vision it would seem, at least at times.
This gives the oline a bit of a boost in confidence - don't underestimate that on a struggling unit.
The fact that defenses don't cheat as much when he is in there is a big plus.
He is also an emotional lift - as he comes through often in the big situations (like the first down run late in game -that was pretty big). Game 1 he really made the Cowboys a tougher team, rolling over the Giants - he brings a winning attitude that just plain HELPS those around him both from the obvious and the intangibles!
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12-09-2012
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#23
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Murray has 15 first downs in the last 2 games - he has been a crucial drive extender since returning.
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12-09-2012
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#24
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Sorry, but some of you are a riot. If Felix put up the stat line that Murray did today, you'd all be calling for his head again and pointing out how "worthless" he is.
Funny stuff..
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What? Fantasy stats aren't the only story?
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12-09-2012
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Originally Posted by AbeBeta
What? Fantasy stats aren't the only story?
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Fantasy stats? Who cares about fantasy stats?
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12-09-2012
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#26
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he makes plays Felix Jones can't simple as that.
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12-09-2012
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Sometimes Murray runs like he's drunk out there. Stumbling around and running into players.
He made a few clutch runs when we needed them today but overall, he was very underwhelming. That many carries and only 50 or so yards, not good.
And yes, he's good when he's out there. But that's the problem. You can't rely on him to be healthy.
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12-09-2012
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
I think the reason people call DeMarco Murray a difference maker is because Felix doesn't rush for all the hypothetical yardage.
Last week they put up the numbers in games when Murray is in and out. They were pretty different.
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What's so impressive to me about Murray is how many first downs the guy gets after contact. Those are big, big plays, and he does it multiple times, every week. That first down to seal the game was, what, his third drive-extending run today against a very active front? That's rare, hugely important, and it's not something that shows up in a regular stat line.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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12-09-2012
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackspider214
He made a few clutch runs when we needed them today but overall, he was very underwhelming.
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Murray was 5-5 in 3rd down conversions, that's the definition of clutch.
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12-09-2012
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghst187
outside romo, murray is the most important player on our team.
I feel pretty confident that had he been active against Wash, we win that game
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Agree. The thing you can't account for is presence. His sheer presence in the game causes defenses to have to play honest which opens up the overall passing game for the rest of the offense. So glad to have him back.
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