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Old 12-10-2012   #16
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That changed my whole perspective on Josh Brent and virtually the whole situation.

I understand that when things are out of control and alcohol is involved that a person might not act as they usually would, but if this story is indeed true then Josh Brent is not who I thought he was.
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Old 12-10-2012   #17
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Wow, that was bad.

I remember when I was 19 or 20 something, I was driving to pick up a friend for work or something and could see a bunch of smoke on what ever highway I was on. As I got closer (this was like 9-10 in the mourning) I could see a horribile accident.

It must've just happened because there were a lot of people on an open highway, with their cars parked on the side trying to help the people inside. Eventually me and a few of the guys at the scene began prying the door loose so the uninjured ones could get out and the injured ones could recieve some kind of help.

Soon enough a fire truck showed up, but if a group of complete strangers knew how to act in that situation, JBrent should've known to do something while his friend sat in a car dying.
IF they knew to take the key's away from a Drunk JOSH BRENT then Jerry Brown's dream of playing on sunday would still be alive....JOSH BRENT IS NO HERO..
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Old 12-10-2012   #18
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Geez, if he had pulled him out sooner he might still be alive.
Why do you believe that? Did he die of burns or inhalation injuries? If not then I doubt it played a major role in his death. He most likely died from head trauma suffered at the time of the accident.
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The only thing I'll say about that is I was in a car accident about 5 years ago and even though I told the cop and medical personnel I was fine, I have no recollection of those events. I only learned of them later when I had to testify for the state against the driver who caused the incident.

I'm not making excuses for Brent but it's highly possible he had no idea what he was doing when this lady was talking to him.

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Old 12-11-2012   #20
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The combination of likely being in shock and being highly inebriated probably factored in Brent not pulling him out sooner.
I would guess he didn't want to look at all.

That said, if he could pull him out eventually he could have pulled him out initially.
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Didn't the car roll over a few times? Is it possible that not only was he is shock, but that maybe he had hit his head at some point and had a concussion as well as being drunk? There are too many moving parts to this story and I am not judging anyone. Brent has to live with this, he is the only one that truly knows what happened.


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Here's Josh Brent's attorney response in regards to the accounts of the witness.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/20...out-josh.html/
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The only thing I'll say about that is I was in a car accident about 5 years ago and even though I told the cop and medical personnel I was fine, I have no recollection of those events. I only learned of them later when I had to testify for the state against the driver who caused the incident.

I'm not making excuses for Brent but it's highly possible he had no idea what he was doing when this lady was talking to him.
I played a football game with a guy once and after the game we are walking off the field having the most normal conversation in the world. He stops and looks at me with the weirdest expression and said, "where are we?" He had a concussion.

How anyone cannot understand that Brent was probably disoriented I don't understand. If the impact killed Brown then I would guess Brent received significant impact also.

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It's weird how consensus builds in a discussion. There's a thread about this identical video in the Fan Zone, and there people basically universally decided that the "witness" was full of it. Here, almost everyone is taking what she said to be true.

Interesting how that works.
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Even if you take the woman's story at face value, think about the details.

"He won't get out of the car"... She said that Brent said this two or three times.

Now... is that a rational response to the situation? Doesn't that sound like someone talking who has had a head injury?

Now add to it the physical evidence. Not only did Brown die from the impact, but Brent has bald spots on his head. How did that happen?

I think its obvious that IF THE WOMAN'S STORY is completely accurate, you were dealing with a man who was both drunk, and disoriented.
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I played a football game with a guy once and after the game we are walking off the field having the most normal conversation in the world. He stops and looks at me with the weirdest expression and said, "where are we?" He had a concussion.

How anyone cannot understand that Brent was probably disoriented I don't understand. If the impact killed Brown then I would guess Brent received significant impact also.
Right. What's the alternative? That he wanted to watch his friend die in the fire? It's ridiculous.

This lady obviously just jumped to a conclusion without thinking first.

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It's weird how consensus builds in a discussion. There's a thread about this identical video in the Fan Zone, and there people basically universally decided that the "witness" was full of it. Here, almost everyone is taking what she said to be true.

Interesting how that works.
Oh, I think what she's saying is her version of the truth. I just think the conclusions she's making are pretty ignorant.

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I'm not making excuses for Brent but it's highly possible he had no idea what he was doing when this lady was talking to him.
It's not an excuse. It's a fact.

I see this situation on almost a daily basis. The shock from a significant motor vehicle accident alone can be extremely disorienting...even without injury.

I'm not making excuses, and for all I know, he was completely oriented....but there is a strong possibility he wasn't.

This woman is not qualified to make judgment, and those responsible for allowing an opinionated testimony like this reach to millions of people should be held responsible.
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