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04-23-2005
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#16
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Penguinite
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006
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B+ right now.
Good value everywhere and didnt see anyone take a guy we wanted. Ware and Spears was pretty much a lock and after that Burnett was just good value. He was the best defender on a good SEC team. Very similar player to Thomas Davis except he was even more physical and always near the line of scrimmage.
But I still don't know what any team saw Thursday night that would have made them comfortable with waiting a round or two for the offensive lineman they wanted. ---Todd McShay
We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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04-23-2005
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#17
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Senior Member
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I give it a solid A
Consistant pressure with 4 or 5 guys is the best way to improve your team with all the defensive rule changes. It helps out everybody, even the offense giving them a shorter field.
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04-23-2005
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#18
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Senior Member
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Location: | Bowling Green,KY |
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I give it an "A"
Clayton said on ESPN radio that Dallas and Minnesota are the biggest winners thus far.
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04-23-2005
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#19
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"You Want Some?"
Years Donated 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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A-
Ware was the 13th rated player in Ourlads
Spears was the 12th rated player in Ourlads
Burnett was the 27th rated player in Ourlads
Very good value in Spears. Excellent value in Burnett.
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04-23-2005
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#20
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K9NME
Years Donated 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
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A with ware winning rookie of the year as the icing on the cake.
“Hit them in the mouth, bloody their nose, throw them to the ground and step on their throat!”--Brooking, Pregame Huddle 2009
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04-23-2005
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The Grand Poobah
Years Donated 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
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Ware ranked #11th rated player on the Cbz's Old Dudes Board.
Cowboy Fan since 1960.......You young-uns stay outta my yard.
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04-23-2005
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#22
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K9NME
Years Donated 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
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also for those comparing spears to ellis really need to look again. spears is a whole lot more physical and nastier than ellis. ellis is a hard work, spears is just pure brute force, he is going to be scary under the tuna's tutiledge.
“Hit them in the mouth, bloody their nose, throw them to the ground and step on their throat!”--Brooking, Pregame Huddle 2009
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04-23-2005
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The Great Communicator
Joined: | Nov 2004 |
Location: | Arlington Texas |
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I have to admit that I did not get a warm fuzzy feeling about the Burnett pick. I'm not dis-ing the guy, I know very little about him but I thought there were at least equal players at other positions of greater need. I will give the first round an A+ but the second round brings the overall grade down to a B+/A. I'm not at all unhappy but I am not as happy as I would have been had we nailed down the FS position.
I know a lot of people are saying that the FS is not as important if we get the pass rush going but I disagree. If that pass rush causes the QB to throw some bad passes you still have to have someone with the talent and savey to go get the pick. I am from the old school Cliff Harris / Charlie Waters days. Having a pair of top safeties has won a lot of games for the Cowboys and I am a firm believer that the Safety positions can be key to the teams success. Just think how good we would be with Ed Reed back there with Roy.
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04-23-2005
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#24
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"You Want Some?"
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Originally Posted by JackMagist
I have to admit that I did not get a warm fuzzy feeling about the Burnett pick. I'm not dis-ing the guy, I know very little about him but I thought there were at least equal players at other positions of greater need. I will give the first round an A+ but the second round brings the overall grade down to a B+/A. I'm not at all unhappy but I am not as happy as I would have been had we nailed down the FS position.
I know a lot of people are saying that the FS is not as important if we get the pass rush going but I disagree. If that pass rush causes the QB to throw some bad passes you still have to have someone with the talent and savey to go get the pick. I am from the old school Cliff Harris / Charlie Waters days. Having a pair of top safeties has won a lot of games for the Cowboys and I am a firm believer that the Safety positions can be key to the teams success. Just think how good we would be with Ed Reed back there with Roy.
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Well said Jack... when teams use a three-step drop, pass rush is neutralized and you better be able to cover.
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04-23-2005
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#25
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K9NME
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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
Well said Jack... when teams use a three-step drop, pass rush is neutralized and you better be able to cover.
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I think the 3 step passing game plays into the strength of the 3-4, more hands in the passing lanes.
“Hit them in the mouth, bloody their nose, throw them to the ground and step on their throat!”--Brooking, Pregame Huddle 2009
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04-23-2005
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#26
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
Well said Jack... when teams use a three-step drop, pass rush is neutralized and you better be able to cover.
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Yeah, but a three step drop commits you to throwing underneath stuff. Chances are your FS is too deep to be covering in that situation anyway.
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04-23-2005
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#27
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THE BIG DOG
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We passed on a safety when we took Burnett becasue Burnett was rated high on our board than any safety.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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04-23-2005
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#28
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THE BIG DOG
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BP himself said he didn't think there was anyway we would get Ware and Spears and we did. All 3 picks were the highest rated guys on our board and weren't reaches. I give this draft an A so far.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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04-23-2005
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#29
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Ohio |
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Anyone think we take anymore LBers day two or are we done?
I had an apartment and I had a neighbor, and whenever he would knock on my wall I knew he wanted me to turn my music down and that made me angry 'cause I like loud music... so when he knocked on the wall, I'd mess with his head. I'd say, "Go around! I cannot open the wall! I dunno if you have a doorknob on your side but over here there's nothin'. It's just flat."
Mitch Hedberg RIP
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04-23-2005
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#30
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K9NME
Years Donated 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
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Originally Posted by Natedawg44
Anyone think we take anymore LBers day two or are we done?
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i think we need to address the FS, RB, positions in the later rounds.
“Hit them in the mouth, bloody their nose, throw them to the ground and step on their throat!”--Brooking, Pregame Huddle 2009
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