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followthestar · 04-24-2005

if we trust in Bill, we have to assume that Zimmer is the type of coach Parcells wants on his staff, and therefore in Zimmer i trust. he seems adaptable, and its an advantage to his career that he has run several different defensive schemes. he may end up being HC - its not inconceivable.
but under Parcells he will have to prove himself constantly, along with everyone else. he has the talent on the field, he has the mentor, he has the support of the owner/gm - this is the year we will see if Zimmer has what it takes. but whether he actually does or not, i have not the slightest idea...

Doomsday101 · 04-24-2005

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Originally Posted by mperfection

I'm still a Zimmer hater and think he is, as one sig puts it, the "Village Idiot". I think if we have any success on defense next year and beyond, it will be because of Parcells' influence. What else do you expect Parcells to do but try and show encouragement for his lame DC. I'm still taking a wait-and-see attitude.

That is a perfect situation for you. If Dallas has success on Defense it was all Parcells but if the defense fails you get to blame Zimmer. What a fan!

LaTunaNostra · 04-24-2005

There was an article today in the press mentioning how Bill is dictating Zim and the other coaches get up to speed on the 3-4. I give Zimmer big props for twice having the flexibility to change his scheme, whether it was because his job was on the line before he installed the Tampa Bay style D, or now when it looks like the 3-4 may soon become the BASE D. Many DCs are so wedded to their particular philosophies or schemes, they refuse to adapt.

Parcells 3-4 was the epitome of the "bend don't break" himself, so that philosophy shouldn't get in the way. I also think Bill owes ZimmyWuss bigtime, after overevaluating the Stewarts and Brooks of this league last season. After all it wasn't Zim telling Bill he could turn Pete Hunter into Marcus Coleman last spring. Bill pretty much handcuffed Zim with a pansy Dat Dud end rush, still not enough rest for La'Roi (finally we may get to see what a sufficiently spelled Glover can do), no consistent interior push , a second year CB caught weekly on an island, and a Pro Bowl quality MLB forced to cover too many mistakes of others. Bad Angle Dixon, geez.

Mike 1967 · 04-25-2005

I have to hand it to Parcells for being a man of his word. When he was originally hired by Jerry it was reported that he committed to try and make it work with the players that he inherited.

He gave the young defensive players 2 years to show what they could do. And now he is moving on with Plan B.

I also like the way that he is handling Zimmer. But it does make complete sense. Parcells is going to be running the defense for the forseable future.....so it's not like he had to go out and find a DC who was experienced in the 3-4.

Parcells it obviously a fan of Zimmers. Parcells has made comments about Zimmers approach to the game...his thoroughness. This is actually going to be a very good fit. Rather than have a DC who comes to the table with all the answers, he will have a DC who is coming to the table with the expectations of learning a new system.

Hollywood Henderson · 04-25-2005

Wow Latuna...
zimmy WUSS should just thank his lucky stars he has a job after being easily the worst DC in Cowboys history...

Parcells handicapped zimmy?

What a joke...

I hope you were joking anyway...

LA=Pancakemaker · 04-25-2005

Our Players sucked - Zimmer wasnt out there not making plays.
Zimmer will be fine. We these players we have - I could call plays on D !

ravidubey · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by TruBlueCowboy

Parcells said in his PC that Zimmer put in a lot of overtime during the break studying the 3-4. Remember last time Zimmer thought his job might be on the line and had to change his philosophies? He turned our team into a cover 2 unit and suddenly, we we went from one of the worst defenses in the league to one of the best. He's about to do it again. Zimmer is the man for defensive spiritual awakenings. For all you Zimmer haters out there, you have to at least give him credit for not changing his philosophy on defense just once to suit the team, but twice now. We're going to have one hell of a versatile front seven this year. I think a lot of you who have blamed Zimmer for our problems are going to be red-faced when you see what this man is capable of after some quality drafts and free-agent additions under Parcells. For all you who put last year's problems solely on Zimmer, be sure to give him credit if our defense becomes of the league's best this year.

The key will be Ware-- how well is he utilized from day one. We can't have the 11th pick overall on the bench 75% of the time or inactive every game. He also can't be sitting back in coverage. A special player like Roy should be free to cause destruction with a front seven like we now potentially will have.

TheHustler · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by TruBlueCowboy

Parcells said in his PC that Zimmer put in a lot of overtime during the break studying the 3-4. Remember last time Zimmer thought his job might be on the line and had to change his philosophies? He turned our team into a cover 2 unit and suddenly, we we went from one of the worst defenses in the league to one of the best. He's about to do it again. Zimmer is the man for defensive spiritual awakenings. For all you Zimmer haters out there, you have to at least give him credit for not changing his philosophy on defense just once to suit the team, but twice now. We're going to have one hell of a versatile front seven this year. I think a lot of you who have blamed Zimmer for our problems are going to be red-faced when you see what this man is capable of after some quality drafts and free-agent additions under Parcells. For all you who put last year's problems solely on Zimmer, be sure to give him credit if our defense becomes of the league's best this year.

Logic plays no role in Zim bashing.

Next_years_Champs · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by TheHustler

Logic plays no role in Zim bashing.

Amen brother!

Mike 1967 · 04-25-2005

Yes. It is all about the scheme.

It is important to note that our first 2 picks would not necessarily have been good picks if we were looking to remain in the 4-3.

Ware is a tweener who would not hold up well as a DE in the 4-3. And Spears lacks the speed to be a pass rushing DE in the 4-3. But both fit perfectly in the 3-4 scheme.

I have made the argument for some time now that the 4-3 is an interesting scheme because you do not have to find that rare commodity which is the pass rushing DE in a 4-3. It is much easier to find a pass rushing OLB in a 3-4.

Dallas 2005 draft is weighty evidence for this theory.

Hollywood Henderson · 04-25-2005

Yes clueless posters...

Get with the program!

I guess you didn't notice that is PARCELLS taking over on D now....
Hello? You didn't hear?

zimmy WUSS has been delegated to nothingness after years of worst ever defensive records...

Its his last year here book it!

Doomsday101 · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Henderson

Yes clueless posters...

Get with the program!

I guess you didn't notice that is PARCELLS taking over on D now....
Hello? You didn't hear?

zimmy WUSS has been delegated to nothingness after years of worst ever defensive records...

Its his last year here book it!

If Parcells felt that way then Zimmer would already would have been fired. No doubt your entitled to your opinion but Parcells opinion is the one that matters and Zimmer is still with the team