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12-25-2012
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#16
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Right Kind of Guy
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Originally Posted by MissouriCowboy
Much as I want Dallas to have a GM at the helm I give Jerry credit for this pick.
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I don't. The work was done by Tom Ciskowski and the scouting staff.
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12-25-2012
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#17
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
I don't. The work was done by Tom Ciskowski and the scouting staff.
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Man maybe Jerry lets Ciskowski do the work.
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12-25-2012
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#18
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Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.
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Originally Posted by MissouriCowboy
Man maybe Jerry lets Ciskowski do the work.
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Maybe Jerry gets too much credit for things he doesn't do? 
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12-25-2012
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#19
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When Dez wasn't playing well, all of sudden it's how incompetent of a GM Jerry is and how stupid he was for wasting another 1st rounder, but now Dez is excelling and all of a sudden Jerry can't get the credit?
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12-25-2012
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#20
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Right Kind of Guy
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Originally Posted by kevm3
When Dez wasn't playing well, all of sudden it's how incompetent of a GM Jerry is and how stupid he was for wasting another 1st rounder, but now Dez is excelling and all of a sudden Jerry can't get the credit?
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I do not give Jerry credit or blame on personnel moves because he has very little involvement in them as far as analysis. For my money Jerry is a marketing figurehead much more than he is a GM who creates the pieces of a football team. I give the Scouts and Coaches credit for the product on the field, and the players as well.
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12-25-2012
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#21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
I do not give Jerry credit or blame on personnel moves because he has very little involvement in them as far as analysis. For my money Jerry is a marketing figurehead much more than he is a GM who creates the pieces of a football team. I give the Scouts and Coaches credit for the product on the field, and the players as well.
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Hostile so you are saying the Jerry is the gm in name but the scouts make the decisions?
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12-25-2012
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#22
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Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.
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Originally Posted by MissouriCowboy
Hostile so you are saying the Jerry is the gm in name but the scouts make the decisions?
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Jerry does not make final draft decisions. It's the coaches.
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12-25-2012
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#23
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Well what I like about seeing Dez shine is it will create a brand new base of fans for the Cowboys. We don't have another guy like this on the team, and really none for a very long time. No matter how much we call out for OL or whatever, Dez and Murray are the faces that will sell this franchise.
I've always believed this is why RBs and WRs are so important to Jerry, and why we will probably take another RB earlier than some think in this draft. We took MB3, Felix, and Murray when we didn't really need to, and I see the same thing happening again.
Whether you have an agenda against Dez or not, understand his life off the field or not, you should be happy he is a Cowboy no matter the problems that come with it. Sure he ain't a boy scout, but he adds a dynamic that this team needs and hopefully it continues.
If you wonder why all of a sudden our team has all the confidence at the end of games to come back....look no further than Dez, cause that mentality came with his recent surge in play. Dez has been the main component who has brought that dynamic to this team, and now we should just sit back and enjoy it.
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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12-25-2012
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#24
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Originally Posted by Langonelives
Back in the 2010 NFL Draft, 31 NFL teams decided that Dez Bryant wasn't worth the risk.
^^^ stopped reading after this line. He wasn't taken 32nd of the first round, as that sentence implies.
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And if my memory serve's me correctly one of Baltimore's guys texted one of our scout's and said " You took our guy" when we traded with NE and jumped Balti to snatch Dez up. So... Yea...
TORCH HAS BEEN PASSED!!! 88
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12-25-2012
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#25
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I was one of those who said that Jones/White was a better combo than Dez/Miles. Up to that point in the thread, they were more productive through their careers. Miles brings our combo down some, so my edge went to the Falcon receivers.
As individuals, none of them match Dez's god-given talent though. If Dez stays on his current track, he will become the most dominant receiver in the NFL sooner rather than later.
As for Nicks and Cruz, we have a slight edge. Dez > than both of them and Miles is close to Nicks IMO.
Everyone has a plan, until they get hit.
/ Mike Tyson
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12-25-2012
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#26
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Right Kind of Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissouriCowboy
Hostile so you are saying the Jerry is the gm in name but the scouts make the decisions?
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No, the Scouts and coaches do the analysis that leads to Tom Ciskowski, Jason Garrett, Judd Garrett, Stephen Jones, and Jerry Jones making a united decision.
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12-25-2012
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#27
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Thread Killer
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Dez is taking it to the other NFCE teams as well. Dude is a beast. #1 WR in the division
Giants: 9 catches, 195 yds, 0 TDs, 2 games
Eagles: 9 catches, 185 yds, 3 TDs, 2 games
Skins: 8 catches, 145 yds, 2 TDs, 1 game
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12-25-2012
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bounce
31 NFL teams did have a chance for him. Any one of them could have traded up for him. They decided not to. Dallas did.
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The Jags had him targeted.
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12-25-2012
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#29
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
Note to Dez Bryant's number one detractor on this forum. Dez has had a better year (catches, yards, and TDs) than Miles Austin's best year and he is not done. So I ask you, and really only you, who is our #1 WR? The truth will be painful, but not as damaging as the agenda if you keep it up.
I also wonder where the people are who said Hakeem Nicks is hands down better? And so was Victor Cruz. So was Roddy White. So was Julio Jones. Yet Dez has more receptions, yards, and TDs than all of them too.
I better acknowledge Hakeem Nicks was injured for much of the year. I guess that means he will be better next year? Should I book it?
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miles austin didn't see the field a few games(4) of his best season. he would have gone for records. not saying miles is better, just saying that season he had was incredible and better than bryant's.
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12-25-2012
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#30
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Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.
Joined: | Jan 2011 |
Location: | Dallas |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie
The Jags had him targeted.
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I thought the Ravens were going to take him as well.
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