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12-29-2012
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#31
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Ratliff might be here another year for money reasons but I would tell him he is moving to DE and if he doesnt like it he can take a hike. He is too small to be a 3-4 NT and his body is breaking down.
Richard Winters
January 21, 1918 - January 2nd 2011
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12-29-2012
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#32
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Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan
Ratliff might be here another year for money reasons but I would tell him he is moving to DE and if he doesnt like it he can take a hike. He is too small to be a 3-4 NT and his body is breaking down.
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I'm still trying to figure out where all this TRat hate comes from. Breaking down?? He has had an injury riddled season like the rest of our D, but he hasn't missed a game since 2007 before this season.
Maybe we should just cut everyone who has been injured this season. He played well while he was out there, we got bigger problems on this team than TRat.
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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12-29-2012
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#33
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iPhotoshop
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Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze
I'm still trying to figure out where all this TRat hate comes from. Breaking down?? He has had an injury riddled season like the rest of our D, but he hasn't missed a game since 2007 before this season.
Maybe we should just cut everyone who has been injured this season. He played well while he was out there, we got bigger problems on this team than TRat.
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Its not hate its just the reality of the game. His body has taken too much a beating now that he cant stay healthy. How delicate he is now seems more like kitty rat lol
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12-29-2012
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#34
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Originally Posted by LatinMind
Its not hate its just the reality of the game. His body has taken too much a beating now that he cant stay healthy. How delicate he is now seems more like kitty rat lol
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Well his snaps should be limited, and should've been limited for years but one injury riddled season doesn't make him delicate.
Its just like some on here are being hard on Ware, both are vets at this point but there is no reason to throw them in the ditch yet til you have a replacement. Right now, we don't have a replacement for either and both would require alot of resources to replace.
Its almost hilarious to me that TRat is the one pointed out, and yet he is still probably our best defensive linemen. We should be looking for a player to play with him, not to be cutting him at the moment.
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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12-29-2012
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#35
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Originally Posted by junk
Salary cap isn't irrelevant. There are limitations, however, you can usually make space. It just comes at the expense of space in the future.
I don't think Dallas will do much in FA this year.
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I agree that Dallas won't do much, relying on the draft after bringing in a bunch of FAs this past year. The main thing the Cowboys will concentrate on is keeping and restructuring their own, including players like Sims and Moore who have done well stepping in.
The only player I'd like to see stay who I think will leave is Mike Jenkins. Much like Laurent Robinson, I just don't think Dallas will want to pay the starter's money it will take to keep him.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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12-29-2012
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#36
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Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze
Well his snaps should be limited, and should've been limited for years but one injury riddled season doesn't make him delicate.
Its just like some on here are being hard on Ware, both are vets at this point but there is no reason to throw them in the ditch yet til you have a replacement. Right now, we don't have a replacement for either and both would require alot of resources to replace.
Its almost hilarious to me that TRat is the one pointed out, and yet he is still probably our best defensive linemen. We should be looking for a player to play with him, not to be cutting him at the moment.
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I suppose the fact that he was asked by the team to move to DE and he refused has tainted his image in my eyes.
Regardless Ive always thought he was undersized for that position and he is on the wrong side of 30 to top it off.
Richard Winters
January 21, 1918 - January 2nd 2011
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12-29-2012
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#37
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Originally Posted by gimmesix
The only player I'd like to see stay who I think will leave is Mike Jenkins. Much like Laurent Robinson, I just don't think Dallas will want to pay the starter's money it will take to keep him.
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No thanks on Jenkins.
Our top Priorities should be getting Romo and Spencer extended in that order and then putting every available resource into the offensive and defensive lines. Maybe pick up a project corner / safety in the late rounds if we are adding depth.
We need a NT a DE a G and possibly a RT ont the lines. Some would argue C but I think Costa comes back and takes that job.
Richard Winters
January 21, 1918 - January 2nd 2011
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12-29-2012
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#38
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Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan
I suppose the fact that he was asked by the team to move to DE and he refused has tainted his image in my eyes.
Regardless Ive always thought he was undersized for that position and he is on the wrong side of 30 to top it off.
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Well TRat probably wont far as well on the outside cause he lacks the length to be truly effective out there. He is getting older, and does need someone to rotate with, but to throw him away with Brent's status wouldn't be good to do.
Even if we draft a NT high, TRat could still be on this team and make our DL that much better for it. I would rather replace the guys who aren't doing jack then replace a guy who is still effective.
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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12-29-2012
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#39
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Originally Posted by LatinMind
Its not hate its just the reality of the game. His body has taken too much a beating now that he cant stay healthy. How delicate he is now seems more like kitty rat lol
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BTW, you say you like our safeties, and want Sensy back starting. He is a guy who noone in the entire league offered a contract to, yet we gave him one. That you want to replace a player like TRat but will keep around Sensy is beyond weird to me, especially looking at their play respectively cause Sensy can't hold TRat's jock strap.
We could replace TRat with a NT and not get an improvement in play, more of a lateral move to get someone younger in the spot. Sensy, on the other hand, could be replaced by Matt Johnson and an improvement could be seen. Our bang for the buck replaceable player is Sensy, and its not even close.
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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12-29-2012
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#40
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A Work in Progress
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
Relying on Alex Albright as your pass rush compliment to an aging DeMarcus Ware would be insanity.
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What if came down to Spencer or top FA O-lineman?
There's always more to the story.
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12-29-2012
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#41
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those of you trying to brush off questions about the cap need to remember that the cap WILL NOT BE GOING UP FOR YEARS.
Unlike before the new CBA when it steadily climbed year by year.
When that was happening you could play games and shove money to the future when the cap was higher.
Well that will NOT be happening until at LEAST 2015. Maybe later before it goes up by any real amount.
The only reason it was where it was this year was the money Mara and company stole from us and the Skins.
That is the primary reason why we will not resign spencer; or even franchise him again. Though that is somewhat more likely.
We will have to look at Romo's extension and once again there is just so much smoke and mirrors you can do.
Las Cruces NM
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12-30-2012
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#42
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Originally Posted by casmith07
Spencer will return. Doug Free and Jay Ratliff may be cap casualties, especially if Dallas goes Jon Jenkins in round 1 in the draft.
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Do you mean John Jenkins? I was doing some reading on mock drafts and this guy looks like the real thing if available in the second round:
"Haloti Ngata-type presence.
The junior-college product Jenkins (6-3, 351) showed off massive size with some surprising athleticism in his debut for the Bulldogs in 2011. The junior had 28 tackles, six tackles for a loss and three sacks. Jenkins has 50 tackles, one blocked kick, one pass batted, two tackles for a loss and one sack this season. The sack came against Alabama guard Chance Warmack.
Jenkins is a massive load at the line of scrimmage. The senior is a natural fit as a zero-technique nose tackle for an NFL 3-4 defense. It helps that he already plays that position for Georgia. " 
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12-30-2012
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#43
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iPhotoshop
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan
I suppose the fact that he was asked by the team to move to DE and he refused has tainted his image in my eyes.
Regardless Ive always thought he was undersized for that position and he is on the wrong side of 30 to top it off.
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Did they really ask him?
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12-30-2012
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#44
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"You Want Some?"
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Originally Posted by junk
I agree with the need for a NT. I was just wondering if there was some reason you had focused in on Jenkins in a relatively deep draft for nose tackles.
I agree that I don't think the team addresses RT. I don't think they address S either. I suspect they'll roll with Sensabaugh, Church and Johnson.
Spencer is probably re-signed, so DL and OL are probably likely as you said.
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I agree with all your points.
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12-30-2012
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#45
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"You Want Some?"
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Originally Posted by rwalters31
Do you mean John Jenkins? I was doing some reading on mock drafts and this guy looks like the real thing if available in the second round:
"Haloti Ngata-type presence.
The junior-college product Jenkins (6-3, 351) showed off massive size with some surprising athleticism in his debut for the Bulldogs in 2011. The junior had 28 tackles, six tackles for a loss and three sacks. Jenkins has 50 tackles, one blocked kick, one pass batted, two tackles for a loss and one sack this season. The sack came against Alabama guard Chance Warmack.
Jenkins is a massive load at the line of scrimmage. The senior is a natural fit as a zero-technique nose tackle for an NFL 3-4 defense. It helps that he already plays that position for Georgia. " 
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I haven't seen any evidence that the Cowboys even desire some behemoth like that for the NT position AND the Cowboys do not play a lot of zero-technique at the nose.
I don't see the Cowboys being interested in Jenkins or any pure NT for that matter.
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